kEiThZ
Superstar
Lol. I would say it in person, if you know me. But, I also didn't mean it dismissively.
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46th Canadian General Election
- Thread starter Richard White
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Lol. I would say it in person, if you know me. But, I also didn't mean it dismissively.
christiesplits
Senior Member
Devastating new poll for the Liberals by Mainstreet.
CPC: 47% (+13)
LPC: 17% (-16)
NDP: 17% (-1)
BQ: 7% (-1)
GPC: 6% (+4)
PPC: 4% (-1)
Others: 2%
Via Polling Canada on X
CPC: 47% (+13)
LPC: 17% (-16)
NDP: 17% (-1)
BQ: 7% (-1)
GPC: 6% (+4)
PPC: 4% (-1)
Others: 2%
Via Polling Canada on X
afransen
Senior Member
Insane.
I can't believe Trudeau is willfully walking into the woodchipper. Presumably, that poll was taken before the Christmas tax break, so that might shift the needle a bit. I don't see how anything in the Liberals' control is going to save them though.
I can't believe Trudeau is willfully walking into the woodchipper. Presumably, that poll was taken before the Christmas tax break, so that might shift the needle a bit. I don't see how anything in the Liberals' control is going to save them though.
evandyk
Senior Member
Nobody I have spoken to thinks the tax break is a good idea. Obviously everybody is happy to take a little tax break, but it's such obvious short-sighted pandering with no vision or focus that nobody thinks it makes the Liberals look any better.
evandyk
Senior Member
Numbers like this could put the Liberals in danger even in seats like Toronto Centre and Rosedale. In both of those, the Liberals got around 50% and the NDP 25% so if you half the Liberal result and increase the NDP by a bit, it's all of a sudden competitive. Repeat that in cities like Vancouver, Ottawa, London, Hamilton, St. Catharines, Kingston, KW, Halifax, and you have a bloodbath in the Liberals' urban strongholds.
picard102
Senior Member
I guess the GST break isn't "the Christmas present our economy needs" like it was when Conservatives promised it.
jje1000
Senior Member
These breakdowns, though perhaps not representative, are interesting:
- The Liberals have lost the 18-34 cohort but somehow double the percentage of 50+ voters are still willing to stay with them (probably residual memories);
- Where the Conservative support is weakest, Liberal support has instead bled into the other parties (i.e. the NDP, BQ);
- Education and income-wise, the Conservatives are weakest among the uni cohort, and yet also among those making under $75K.
- 12% of Latinos are willing to vote for the PPC (doesn't surprise me) lol
afransen
Senior Member
Dofo did the same thing, essentially a repeat of the plate renewal refund, and they felt it was worthwhile politically to repeat it.
afransen
Senior Member
I don't think you can read much into the racial breakdowns. The reported 0% support among several groups for several parties suggests a pretty small sample. I would say the thing that surprises me most is that PP has the highest support among First Nations, which Trudeau has kind of gone above and beyond to serve more than recent PMs. I don't think PP would be as attuned to the concerns of that community (see Doug ignoring First Nations consultations for 413).
Towered
Superstar
It's a dumb idea, but I'll gladly take the cheque and then vote against the party providing it. Those fools think my vote can be bought?
picard102
Senior Member
Probably previous experience under Conservative governments, and a certain expectation as to how politicians are supposed to act.
evandyk
Senior Member
The plate renewal thing was a win for Doug Ford because it fit in with an overarching program of encouraging driving (and congestion) by making it cheaper. This tax break is not obviously focused on anything the Liberals have been talking about or pursuing (not that there is much of a coherent strategy evident at all in the last few years) which is why it looks so dumb.
kEiThZ
Superstar
The LPC has been great for this group (50+). Increased home prices. No cuts touch them. And dental care for retirees. If you're a young person, the LPC has been an absolute disaster for you. The flood of immigrants is driving up your rent, suppressing your wages and making good jobs hard to get.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
What chance does the CPC of taking more Liberal ridings in Toronto? I'm in Toronto-Centre, a riding that hasn't voted conservative since 1988, when the very Red Tory, David MacDonald won the seat. Since 1993 and Bill Graham it's been a Liberal seat ever since. Normally I vote NDP to give the opposition at least a chance against the LPC, but I may vote CPC this time around if I feel they have a chance and I'm not worried about a vote split giving an easy win to the LPC.
evandyk
Senior Member
In the old city of Toronto, possibly University-Rosedale. CPC got 20% in the last election. In most of the old City ridings, their problem is that the NDP will probably capture more of the disgruntled previous Liberal voters. Toronto Centre, Davenport, Parkdale-High Park, Spadina-Fort York and Toronto-Danforth will probably all be NDP. Nathanial Erskine-Smith is personally popular and can probably hold Beaches-East York, but even that will be a struggle for him. But that would go NDP if he doesn't win.
In Etobicoke, Scarborough, and North York it will be happy hunting for CPC candidates.
In Etobicoke, Scarborough, and North York it will be happy hunting for CPC candidates.