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Dundas St Rapid Transit (Metrolinx, Mississauga, Halton Region, CoT)

Halton drivers have been dealing with years of Dundas St widening and construction, expected to wrap up in 2027. Given there’s no mention of a BRT in their construction plans for the public to digest, are voters going to have a meltdown when Metrolinx finally gets this going and pushes to rip their road up again?
 
ownthesky said:
Halton drivers have been dealing with years of Dundas St widening and construction, expected to wrap up in 2027. Given there’s no mention of a BRT in their construction plans for the public to digest, are voters going to have a meltdown when Metrolinx finally gets this going and pushes to rip their road up again?
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It won't impact Halton for decades.
 
imerk said:
Halton is mostly just going to have curb lanes repainted.
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Even Mississauga is using curb lanes west of Confederation where the ROW will end and it will be decades before the ROW will get to the 403. Density is not there to meet ML requirements for an ROW to Waterdown for a few decades.

One thing to keep in mind, as long as Ford is in office, removing a traffic lane is not on radar like bike lanes. Unless there a bus passing a point every 3 minutes let alone 5, an ROW is not needed. Jump-ques are only needed for stops at this time.
 
drum118 said:
Even Mississauga is using curb lanes west of Confederation where the ROW will end and it will be decades before the ROW will get to the 403. Density is not there to meet ML requirements for an ROW to Waterdown for a few decades.

One thing to keep in mind, as long as Ford is in office, removing a traffic lane is not on radar like bike lanes. Unless there a bus passing a point every 3 minutes let alone 5, an ROW is not needed. Jump-ques are only needed for stops at this time.
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I would have liked the row to get to mavis.
 
drum118 said:
Even Mississauga is using curb lanes west of Confederation where the ROW will end and it will be decades before the ROW will get to the 403. Density is not there to meet ML requirements for an ROW to Waterdown for a few decades.

One thing to keep in mind, as long as Ford is in office, removing a traffic lane is not on radar like bike lanes. Unless there a bus passing a point every 3 minutes let alone 5, an ROW is not needed. Jump-ques are only needed for stops at this time.
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Steeles in Brampton is currently below 4 minute headways and once the LRT opens it will drop below 3 minute headways.
 
Just saw this in the Brampton Guardian.

Stantec selected to lead design for 7-kilometre Dundas Bus Rapid Transit Mississauga East corridor in Ontario​

Thursday, May 8, 2025


EDMONTON, Alberta and NEW YORK, May 08, 2025 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — TSX, NYSE:STN

Stantec, a global leader in sustainable design and engineering, has been selected by the City of Mississauga to lead detailed design and contract administration on the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit Mississauga East Corridor, which includes more than 7 kilometres of bus rapid transit (BRT) with 8 stops. Led by the City of Mississauga, the Dundas BRT Mississauga East segment has an estimated project budget of C$580 million, which includes design and construction, land acquisition, and additional regional utility upgrades to be coordinated to increase construction efficiency.

Just saw this in the Brampton Guardian.
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The crazy thing is, for $580 million, Mississauga isnt taking the opportunity to relocate utilities along Dundas now.

Which means if they ever want to upgrade this to LRT in the future, they will be paying mountains more in the future to do it and it wont be as simple to do compared to if they actually relocated utilities with this project.
 
Amare said:
The crazy thing is, for $580 million, Mississauga isnt taking the opportunity to relocate utilities along Dundas now.

Which means if they ever want to upgrade this to LRT in the future, they will be paying mountains more in the future to do it and it wont be as simple to do compared to if they actually relocated utilities with this project.
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The city has no plans to convert the BRT to LRT in the Future and why they did not spend the extra millions to do so now. At the same time, they will have to do a new EA for the LRT and they are not prepare to wait an extra 6-9 months for it as they want shovels in the ground as plan.

Not all of the utilities are been relocated for an LRT, than those required for an BRT. Some utilities maybe relocated for LRT as work take place based on comments made at Council last year when a motion was put forth to convert the BRT to LRT but was shot down.
 
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jys said:
Can anyone recap when this design-build RFP was cancelled and why? I know they've since awarded a design contract (early 2025), leading to a minimum 2-year delay in the process.
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I don't know the exact reason and as far as I know the City has not publicly stated the reason for it (in a corporate report, media release or otherwise). Surely it's something that would have caught media attention in Toronto, but us Mississaugans are SOL.

In September 2024 the General Committee received a staff report titled "2024 Rapid Transit Program Update". The report doesn't acknowledge the cancellation of the design-build-RFP or the design-build-RFP at all for that matter, but states "The 30% preliminary design was completed in early 2024. Due to the new provincial housing mandate, additional water and waste water infrastructure scope from the Region of Peel was incorporated into the Dundas BRT Mississauga East project scope of work."

In November 2024 the General Committee received a staff presentation regarding the status of City's rapid transit projects. As you'll see in the slide below a 2-year delay wouldn't sound so bad compared to what this last timeline estimate is...

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