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Roads: Ontario/GTA Highways Discussion

... if Fidelli was still a somebody with PC's we might of seen the North Bay bypass built. MTO already owns a ton of land for it. Also was forcasted to be needed for 2020 traffic volumes...
 
anb said:
This might be a dumb question, but do go buses get to ride the 407E for free? I know it isn’t the case for the main private 407 ETR, but the eastern extension is owned by the government so it should be right?
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Just a fun aside, the justification for building the 407 Transitway is because the province has to pay the private 407 to use it for GO buses. There really isn't the traffic on the 407 to justify a dedicated busway, just that a busway means they don't have to pay to use it; the lands the 407 is in are still provincially owned.
 
robmausser said:
Just a fun aside, the justification for building the 407 Transitway is because the province has to pay the private 407 to use it for GO buses. There really isn't the traffic on the 407 to justify a dedicated busway, just that a busway means they don't have to pay to use it; the lands the 407 is in are still provincially owned.
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And also keep getting on and off the highway waste a lot of time.
 
robmausser said:
Just a fun aside, the justification for building the 407 Transitway is because the province has to pay the private 407 to use it for GO buses. There really isn't the traffic on the 407 to justify a dedicated busway, just that a busway means they don't have to pay to use it; the lands the 407 is in are still provincially owned.
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Even without the 407 being private, the transitway is still a really good idea. Not having to deal with off-ramps, plus allowing a rapid long distance east-west connector is something that is desperately needed, especially since we won't have a crosstown style gotrain service anytime soon. Plus, when the transitway is converted to LRT, we will have proper rail connection between the many Suburbs of Toronto, rather than just a bunch of radial services. that only lead to Toronto.
 
With regards to the Highway 427 extension. What highways or roads are they expecting it to take pressure off of - would it affect the 400 as another westerly north south option? Are they expanding highway 25? just looking at the photos it seemed like a connection to 27 would have been a solid end point to continue the N-S flow.
 
Mcurtis said:
With regards to the Highway 427 extension. What highways or roads are they expecting it to take pressure off of - would it affect the 400 as another westerly north south option? Are they expanding highway 25? just looking at the photos it seemed like a connection to 27 would have been a solid end point to continue the N-S flow.
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Highway 50 going south of mayfield is terrible, because of all the trucks.
 
Anything to appease the automobile gods by their disciples at Queen's Park.

See link.

Ontario Making Travel Easier Across York, Peel and Halton Regions
Province Introduces Preferred Route for New 400-series Highway and Transitway Across the GTA

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The Ontario government is taking steps to make commuting and travel easier in the Greater Toronto Area by confirming the Preferred Route for a new 400-series highway and transit corridor across York, Peel and Halton regions. Advancing the GTA West corridor will reduce travel times for drivers and support economic growth and job creation.

"The Greater Golden Horseshoe is an economic driver for the province and addressing transportation needs in this region is essential to the competitiveness of our economy," said Caroline Mulroney, Minister of Transportation. "The GTA West Corridor will help alleviate traffic congestion and improve the movement of people and goods across the province."

The GTA West corridor will include a four-to-six lane 400-series highway, separate infrastructure dedicated for transit and passenger stations, as well as intelligent transportation features and truck parking. By 2031, the overall traffic on this route is expected to exceed 300,000 auto vehicles trips per day.

Feedback from public consultations have been reviewed in consideration of the confirmed Preferred Route and 2020 Focused Analysis Area. The Preferred Route incorporates feedback received from stakeholders and the public as well as new land use and environmental information.

The Preferred Route consists of the route and interchange locations for the GTA West corridor. Preliminary design and further consultations will be moving forward over the next two years as the design is further developed.

The Environmental Assessment (EA) for the GTA West Corridor is expected to be complete by the end of 2022.
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Quick Facts
  • The GTA West EA will identify and address transportation needs in a study area covering portions of York, Peel and Halton regions.
  • The province held meetings open to the general public in September and October of 2019 to gather feedback on the draft Technically Preferred Route.
Additional Resources
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You may also view a detailed map of the Preferred Route and Interchange Locations.
 
I wonder what they mean by separate infrastructure for transit. I can't imagine its more then a transitway like the one Miway uses.

Have they given any estimated cost for its construction or does anyone have any guesses?
 
I think the transitway needs to be a 2 lane each way, at least for the Bramalea-Unionville section of it. And hopefully we can also see a Branch of the transitway dip down to pearson and meet with the Mississauga transitway
 
anb said:
I think the transitway needs to be a 2 lane each way, at least for the Bramalea-Unionville section of it. And hopefully we can also see a Branch of the transitway dip down to pearson and meet with the Mississauga transitway
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What's the point? Busses aren't cars and at least theoretically shouldn't be driving at different speeds, especially on a Grade Separated Corridor. 2 lanes at a station? Absolutely, in fact that's basically the expectation at this point.
 
Why would you need a Transitway here when supposedly development won't be extending towards it? Something with that doesn't add up. Either the urban boundary will be pushed up to (and probably past) this new highway, or the Province will be building a Transitway in the middle of farmers' fields.
 
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