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they probably are, at least to an acceptable margin of error. the costs are currently at $434 million / km, which seems high considering this is a 7.6km line with 3 stations. If anything I can see the TTC building some huge station at STC with an unnecessary underground bus terminal (which it seems to love nowadays, with the underground terminal at Don Mills and the proposed one at Steeles) along with some sort of fancy sheppard station to intersect with the sheppard LRT.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
Steve did mention that we won't know the full cost of the subway until the EA is done. Back in the summer I remember some at Council were fearful that when the EA is finalized we'd find that the true costs of the project would be significantly higher than budget for. If that is true then we'll probably end up with a shorter route to STC. Lets just hope that the TTCs estimate was spot on.
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The cost premium is already a billion dollars more than Stintz' original claimed figure of five hundred million.
 
innsertnamehere said:
they probably are, at least to an acceptable margin of error. the costs are currently at $434 million / km, which seems high considering this is a 7.6km line with 3 stations. If anything I can see the TTC building some huge station at STC with an unnecessary underground bus terminal (which it seems to love nowadays, with the underground terminal at Don Mills and the proposed one at Steeles) along with some sort of fancy sheppard station to intersect with the sheppard LRT.
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I'd rather them spend that money on an el cheapo Brimley Station rather than overbuilt fancy stations on the rest of the line.
 
the council numbers are $960 million from property taxes and $660 million from the feds on top of the original $1.4 billion from the province, meaning $1.5 billion more than the LRT. I don't really expect that number to change by much, it seems like the TTC stuck lots of contingency into it. The only way it could change significantly is if the EA decides to go with the old LRT alignment, which would cost a similar amount but may be $100-$200 million more.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
3.6 km is ridiculous spacing. Especially since Brimely Station would be incredibly important for the many people who live and work along Eglinton East.
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I think the spacing can be reduced to ~3 km if the subway takes a more direct route to Lawrence & McCowan, by going under the subdivisions. Who said subways have to follow the roads?
 
TheTigerMaster said:
3.6 km is ridiculous spacing. Especially since Brimely Station would be incredibly important for the many people who live and work along Eglinton East.

I understand that the TTC probably doesn't want a station there because of the curvature, but I think the benefits of building the station definitely outweigh the downsides.
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If you want a station on Eglinton, then why not just extend the B-D Subway along Eglinton to Kingston Road. It is 4.5 km, which should cost about $1.5B and still leave enough money on the table that the Transit City LRT option can be improved. There would be stations at Brimley/McCowan, Eglinton GO, and Markham/Kingston - with about 1.5km spacing for each.

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showth...-(including-fantasy-maps)?p=807967#post807967
 
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What are the advantages of taking the SRT route over McCowan?
SRT seems to be through a hydro or railway corridor through industrial parks where no one really lives. McCowan is low-rise suburban housing, but at least it's a road people use and live near. In both cases, I would assume that ridership is primarily from buses can connect with the stations.

I guess the advantage is the cost savings of not having to tunnel?
 
the advantage is hitting Centennial college.

I prefer the city route really, its faster, and actually has a useful connection to the Sheppard LRT.
 
I think everyone prefers the City's route. What Murray proposed was so horrible that I actually thought it was designed to dissuade people from supporting the subway.
 
innsertnamehere said:
Den, I'm fine with a station at Brimley, but it simply isn't in the plans.
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What plans? They have said that station locations would be finalized during the EA. The EA hasn't been done yet. They would start creating plans and specifications until after the EA is complete.
 
Adjei said:
I think after they conduct the EA they will see a need to put a station at Brimley and Eglinton due to the distance between the station at Kennedy and Lawrence and McCowan is too much (4.3 km). I don't think there is such a great distance between any two stations on the TTC subway system. This will shoot up the costs. What will happen then?
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That can lead to a self-defeating argument: we must add Brimley station, but because this station drives the cost up, we will abandon the whole subway plan. Then, Brimley station cannot be built as there is no subway there.

I think that Brimley station should be added, but doubt that it will break the subway plan. If they can't fund it, they will not built it (perhaps will rough it in).
 
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