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News from the Middle East
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narduch
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Meanwhile Washington Post is reporting that Israel is looking for an off ramp because the war is going so bad
narduch
Senior Member
Trump having his Mission Accomplished moment.
Full Metal Junkie
Senior Member
They've been at 60% for many years now, it's just that the amount of 60% enriched uranium keeps growing over the years. I've yet to read a single article form mainstream media where the reporters have an inkling of understanding of what that 60% figure actually represents. At best, they think Iran is 60% of the way to a nuclear bomb. At worst, it's just a scarry figure they throw around (big number, sounds scarry).
Same with the whole "Iran is 2 weeks away from getting a nuclear bomb" drum-beating. While technically true that it takes 2 weeks to enrich it from 60% up to weapons-grade, that comes with a lot of caveats. You need to have the right equipment, enough throughput, and technological know-how just to complete the enrichment step. Then you need a hell of a lot more tech to actually get the uranium back into the metal state. Then you need to actually assemble the warhead. Any Ph.D. student in a nuclear physics program can assemble a working low-yield warhead, but it will be so bulky and inefficient, it's not going to make for a useful weapon. You need a hell of a lot more technological know-how to assemble a miniaturized high-yield warhead that you can actually mount on a ballistic rocket.
And Iran does not have a lot of this tech. So no, they are not 2 weeks away from being able to nuke Israel. But they do have 440kg of 60% enriched uranium - enough fissile material to make 10 nuclear warheads at some distant point in the future.
If you're interested in this topic, articles from military think tanks is the way to go. Here's a decent one:
Twice Bombed, Still Nuclear: The Limits of Force Against Iran’s Atomic Program
On Feb. 28, the United States and Israel launched coordinated but separately named military campaigns against Iran — the United States under Operation
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Full Metal Junkie
Senior Member
This is me stating the truth. This is war. The only question for any party to a war is what they are doing to minimize the civilian casualties and what they are doing to correct their mistakes once they inevitably make them. Judging by how Trump admin is still refusing to even admit that they bombed the girl's school, the answer to that question is that they are not doing enough to address the mistakes.
And in your shoes I wouldn't be the one throwing the accusations that someone else doesn't care. Unlike you, I care about the death of all civilians on all sides of the conflict no matter who is doing the killing. You, on the other hand, only care about the the Iranian civilians that are killed by US and Israel. You clearly don't care about the thousands of Iranian civilians killed by the Ayatollahs. You've demonstrated that fact time and again here.
afransen
Senior Member
You made a claim then posted a supposed source for that claim that did not in fact support the claim in question. That looks like an attempt to pass propaganda (the original claim) past casual scrutiny if someone did not click the link. Right to be called out.
afransen
Senior Member
I think you've lost the plot with this. Do you have any idea the kinds of things Russia has been up to? I can only hope this comes from a place of ignorance.
afransen
Senior Member
They were on a live fire exercise. It is a warship, sailing during active hostilities. Absolutely fair game to be sunk.
narduch
Senior Member
How much of Ukraine has Russia Gazified?
I will stand by this statement.
And for the record I consider all 3 of those nations Evil.
narduch
Senior Member
They were at some pompous military naval wank fest in India. A few days earlier they were marching in a parade in India.
narduch
Senior Member
Had to go look it up and according to UN data there have been way more deaths in a shorter time in Gaza compared to the Ukraine-Russia war. And really thats not even a fair comparison because one is a real war and the other is a massive slaughter of defenseless civilians. So ya. I will call Israel the most evil country in the World.
afransen
Senior Member
Ok, time to stop feeding the troll folks.
Here is a good overview/explainer of the situation as of this weekend wrt Iranian missiles, US bombing campaign, and interceptor stockpiles.
Here is a good overview/explainer of the situation as of this weekend wrt Iranian missiles, US bombing campaign, and interceptor stockpiles.
narduch
Senior Member
I guess you have to resort to calling me a troll because what Israel did in Gaza is too hard to defend.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Unless the Americans plan on "mowing the lawn" periodically, they will rebuild really fast. Watch the rest of CRINK help them rebuild. I say 5-10 years. And they'll be especially boldened knowing the next POTUS won't have the cojones or the stupidity to do this again.
They export 3 Mbpd. That pays for a lot.
I've always said the way to end these Petro State autocrats is to buy an EV. I hope to live long enough to see oil become strategically irrelevant. Just to watch the end of guys like Putin or regimes like Iran.
I hope Europe invests massively in electrification and kills demand growth for oil and LNG permanently.
Also, now that the US is an exporter instead of an importer, they are incentivized to act just like Russia or Iran. They literally get paid more for chaos.
This was their chance. Sucks for them unfortunately.
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afransen
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If oil stays over $100 for a decent period of time demand destruction will intensify. As cleantech gets cheaper, the ceiling price of oil above which it is an obvious decision to invest gets lower and lower. What is happening with solar and batteries in Australia is wild. And as many homeowners have solar on their roof and home batteries, getting an EV, electric hot water heater, induction cooktop, etc. becomes more obvious.