Morriston1986
New Member
I am curious as to why they are starting, if any construction, like you said it would not make any sence to do just this intersection of the project
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Roads: Ontario/GTA Highways Discussion
- Thread starter Haljackey
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NW87
Active Member
Enroute reconstruction off the 400 North of Major Mack
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Thanks. It's been a while since MTO rebuilt an On-Route, I wonder if they will go with the same design they built the rest of them out as 10-15 years ago or if it will be a new design.
drum118
Superstar
Will be a new design based on the new ones on the 401 to the west.
stevensontransit
Active Member
So why they tear down the 1990’s service centre building unlike the ingersoll and Newcastle locations where they just rebuild the gas station?
Transportfan
Senior Member
I wonder if it will be renamed "Vaughan" from "Maple" as that would make sense in the modern context of Vaughan. Most people will most likely start thinking of this area as being Woodbridge anyways (although that's ridiculously stretching it, but that's Vaughan for you) as it gets developed given its location on the west side of the 400.
narduch
Senior Member
Technically Maple is on the East side of the 400
Transportfan
Senior Member
That's why the name no longer "works" as it did when the area was still rural and Maple was the nearest town. Not to mention it's actually Hope this far north and that its now in the urbanized City of Vaughan.
tsm1072
Active Member
I've been thinking about the Skyway and Freeman interchange the the general high level of congestion caused through downtown Burlington during rush hour. I know there is eventual plans to rebuild the full interchange to add capacity, but I feel in the short term more can be done to reduce spill-over to local streets.
Has there ever been a proposal to close the North Shore on/off ramps to the QEW? Closing the two on ramps would go a long way to keeping traffic off of lakeshore as a way to bypass the interchange, especially Niagara bound. The other advantage of closing the Niagara bound on-ramp, is it would allow for the closure of the Eastport/Northshore collectors entry back onto the skyway, making that split an exit-only to Eastport. Closing the Toronto bound QEW off ramp to Northshore would allow the 4 through lanes on the skyway to continue through to the interchange, pushing the pinch point a little further along and off of the skyway.
It feels to me like these ramps are not overly necessary with the Fairview and Eastport options providing suitable alternates that can better handle the total amount of traffic.
Has there ever been a proposal to close the North Shore on/off ramps to the QEW? Closing the two on ramps would go a long way to keeping traffic off of lakeshore as a way to bypass the interchange, especially Niagara bound. The other advantage of closing the Niagara bound on-ramp, is it would allow for the closure of the Eastport/Northshore collectors entry back onto the skyway, making that split an exit-only to Eastport. Closing the Toronto bound QEW off ramp to Northshore would allow the 4 through lanes on the skyway to continue through to the interchange, pushing the pinch point a little further along and off of the skyway.
It feels to me like these ramps are not overly necessary with the Fairview and Eastport options providing suitable alternates that can better handle the total amount of traffic.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
MTO is rebuilding the QEW through the Freeman interchange and will be adding a central barrier and the highway platform to extend the HOVs through right to the Skyway in the next 2-3 years.
The contract includes all bridge widenings required minus the 403/QEW overpass over the CN Bypass corridor east of Brant St - and because that bridge widening isn't included, the HOVs won't be able to actually be extended.
The easiest fix for that area is for MTO to simply fund that bridge widening and get the HOVS around the bend and to the Skyway. Couple that with making the 8-lanes actually continuous over Northshore and a lot of the worst traffic issues should lighten up.
Northshore also doesn't need to close to get the 8 lanes to be continuous - it just needs some extra highway platform.
KingJames
Active Member
This must be an enormous cost (also what a disaster this route will be for 2-3 years)!
innsertnamehere
Superstar
MTO has a website for the project:
Queen Elizabeth Way and Highway 403 Improvements
qew403improvements.ca
A quote from the website about the project:
I.e. Everything but one bridge will be done to extend the HOVs but MTO doesn't have the money approved to do that one bridge yet.
The budget for the project is "$25 to $100 million".
Haljackey
Active Member
Could a lane on the Burlington Skyway be cannibalized and converted to HOV? That way you could eventually run HOVs all the way to the 406, perhaps 405 if somehow pushed through St Cathrines as the Garden City Skyway twinning should be able to handle it.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
MTO technically has plans to eventually widen the newer Skyway bridge (Niagara-Bound) to add HOVs for both directions - but they haven't done the EA for it. It would likely cost hundreds of millions to do.
Also - I will note that the Ford government promised to "re-evaluate" HOV lanes in their election platform this year, so we may find MTO drops the idea of HOVs entirely soon anyway.
Garuda
Active Member
Seeing these OnRoute pictures makes me wish they would get serious about building some locations north of Barrie. And rebuild Highway 11 to full freeway status between Barrie and Gavernhurst. That route was a death trap during the thanksgiving weekend.