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Metrolinx: Other Items (catch all)

Metrolinx won’t say how much it costs to operate Union Pearson Express train
By BEN SPURRTransportation Reporter
Wed., Aug. 22, 2018
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While Metrolinx released the ridership numbers to the Star, a spokesperson for the agency said in an emailed statement it couldn’t release figures showing how much it costs to operate the UP Express, or how much each ride is subsidized by taxpayers, because “Metrolinx considers all of its rail operations — GO and UP — to be part of one network.”

“We do not break down the funding of each line of the network,” said Anne Marie Aikins in the statement.

Metrolinx has published UP Express operating costs in the past. But Aikins said that the service has now been more closely integrated with Metrolinx’s other divisions and doesn’t have a separate budget.
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https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...s-to-operate-union-pearson-express-train.html

I wonder if she realizes the gravity of what she just stated as per the Metrolinx Bylaw and not honouring GO bus transfers to UPX at the airport, as well as other issues?

“Metrolinx considers all of its rail operations — GO and UP — to be part of one network.”

Fascinating....Best they read the tariff attached to Bylaw 2B.
 
Interesting- I wonder if GO RER would be able to access the same funds (this is for the REM):

Canada Infrastructure Bank loaning $1.28-billion to Montreal electric rail project
A nascent federal agency designed to find new ways to finance construction of transit systems is making its first investment in a multibillion-dollar electric rail system in Montreal.

The Canada Infrastructure Bank will provide a $1.28-billion loan to help build the $6.3-billion system largely managed and funded by Quebec’s pension regime, with interest rates rising from one per cent to three per cent over the 15-year term.

The loan frees up previously pledged federal money for the project, which can now be put towards other Quebec infrastructure plans.
Federal infrastructure funding can’t flow to provinces and cities until they submit receipts, which often creates a lag between when work happens and when the federal government pays out.

Frechette’s report said $6.5 billion has been spent to date from the $14.4 billion, with large shortfalls under the “green infrastructure” banner supposed to address climate change and public transit, where $282 million of $3.4 billion has been spent.

The report said $1.4 billion in transit money is scheduled to leave the federal treasury next year — just in time for the October 2019 federal election.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...ank-loaning-128-billion-to-montreal-electric/
 
Interesting- I wonder if GO RER would be able to access the same funds (this is for the REM)
Would we be handing ownership of GO (the most valuable parts, of course) over to the OTPP or OMERS first, as the Mont Royal Tunnel and Deux Montagnes got handed to the Caisse?
 
Honestly, that might be worth doing if it gets the ball rolling on RER it is probably worth it. I'm pretty sure at full buildout and with more TOD RER could be immensely successful.
Whatever poor public accountability Metrolinx provides, a pension fund, even one with public service beneficiaries, will provide much less I fear.
 
Whatever poor public accountability Metrolinx provides, a pension fund, even one with public service beneficiaries, will provide much less I fear.
At least the Caisse is actually building the REM.

Re: Metrolinx, well there's not much of an RER in sight at present, and its chances of properly coming to fruition seem to be getting worse under the PCs.
 
Re: Metrolinx, well there's not much of an RER in sight at present, and its chances of properly coming to fruition seem to be getting worse under the PCs.

The Union Station Corridor West Enhancements ought to show up soon; tender submissions closed Nov 2017 and they should be ready to select the winning bid. This project was separated from the main RER bid to maintain the 2025 timeline.

If it doesn't get awarded soon then the RER is definitely going to be delayed. If it does get awarded soon, then PCs will likely do something substantial with GO even if it isn't the full RER plan.
 
The Union Station Corridor West Enhancements ought to show up soon; tender submissions closed Nov 2017 and they should be ready to select the winning bid. This project was separated from the main RER bid to maintain the 2025 timeline.

If it doesn't get awarded soon then the RER is definitely going to be delayed. If it does get awarded soon, then PCs will likely do something substantial with GO even if it isn't the full RER plan.

Someone I know at Infrastructure Ontario has told me everything is business as usual, and no delay orders have been issued by the government. That's just info from one person however.
 
If you think the cost transparency is messed up now, just wait until the Mother of All DBFOM contracts is in place. One vendor bid for the whole system. Costs are proprietary property of the vendor. Just like CN and CP today.

- Paul
I'd lost where this post was made, as it's worth a lot of comment, and thus my late answer to it. Like it or not, this appears ever more likely on the horizon as one of the only ways Ford can slash costs (immediate costs, the taxpayer remains on the hook long-term) and still build.

It has a mixed blessing (and I actually favour this, but not done by morons who haven't a clue which way to hold a card, let alone a hand) in that the SSE, for instance, would not attract any private capital unless highly subsidized and underwritten by the taxpayer. The SSE is probably the most glaring example. Other projects *if done right* (huge 'if' in the case of Ford, who can't even run a business) could do well by this method. Huge swathes of Oz infrastructure have been delivered very successfully this way (with a lot of Cdn money!), and on the federal front, I still think it more likely than not that private capital will circumvent the Infrastructure Bank to build VIA's HFR+.

DBFOM is worthy of a string of its own, as there's reams of articles and papers on-line of examples, both horrific and wonderful, on-line.

I don't think the average Ontarian has a clue of what's coming, which in itself lends its going wrong.

Costs are proprietary property of the vendor.
Some would take that to issue, it's worthy of a lot of discussion, but the glaring example of where we *still* haven't a clue is:
Just like CN and CP today.
And that's *exactly* where a legal change from the Feds is necessary. The trouble is, as is the case for the Missing Link or simpler Freight By-Pass, it's all theoretical until costs are required by law to be disclosed.

This could be written into a DBFOM, but already, that's part of the case going to court for the Crosstown.

Do the provinces and Feds have the balls to require this by law? I suspect it *is* required, but the provs and feds haven't even the balls to test it in court.

More on this later...Quick addendum: I suspect there are legal devices to get around this if Ottawa makes this a project of their own...a la the Infrastructure Bank. Precedent?

National Capital Act (R.S.C., 1985, c. N-4)
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/N-4/
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Objects, Purposes and Powers
Marginal note: Objects and purposes of Commission
  • 10 (1) The objects and purposes of the Commission are to prepare plans for and assist in the development, conservation and improvement of the National Capital Region in order that the nature and character of the seat of the Government of Canada may be in accordance with its national significance.

  • Marginal note: Powers
    (2) The Commission may, for the purposes of this Act,
    • (a) acquire, hold, administer or develop property;

    • (b) sell, grant, convey, lease or otherwise dispose of or make available to any person any property, subject to such conditions and limitations as it considers necessary or desirable;

    • (c) construct, maintain and operate parks, squares, highways, parkways, bridges, buildings and any other works;

    • (d) maintain and improve any property of the Commission, or any other property under the control and management of a department, at the request of the authority or Minister in charge thereof;

    • (e) cooperate or engage in joint projects with, or make grants to, local municipalities or other authorities for the improvement, development or maintenance of property;

    • (f) construct, maintain and operate, or grant concessions for the operation of, places of entertainment, amusement, recreation, refreshment, or other places of public interest or accommodation on any property of the Commission;

    • (g) administer, preserve and maintain any historic place or historic museum;

    • (h) conduct investigations and researches in connection with the planning of the National Capital Region; and

    • (h.1) [Repealed, 2013, c. 33, s. 213]

    • (i) generally, do and authorize such things as are incidental or conducive to the attainment of the objects and purposes of the Commission and the exercise of its powers.
  • R.S., 1985, c. N-4, s. 10;
  • R.S., 1985, c. 45 (4th Supp.), s. 3;
  • 2013, c. 33, s. 213.
How abstract is this idea? View this in the context of the outrage the present federal government has reacted with to Ford's blatant interference of Toronto's municipal election. That was done while QP thumbed their collective noses at Ottawa, and at least one MP countered:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/toronto-ford-council-vaughan-1.4765191
Jul 27, 2018 - Ottawa. Change quickly access local content from your selected region ... If we have to work around Queen's Park, we will work around Queen's Park: Vaughan ... Adam Vaughan, a Toronto Liberal MP and parliamentary secretary for ... Mortgage and Housing Corp. to provide more direct cash to cities.

To bring this all back to DBFOM, that specifically aside, it's a huge factor in how 'things are going to change' in how Toronto and the GTHA are going to move forward.
 
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Interesting statement- could be fun interpreting the various political subtexts for it (Straight truth statement? Kissing up to the PCs to ensure that the Big Move survives?). Also is a vaguely hopeful statement that implies that GO RER is still moving ahead.

Taking over TTC subway would be ‘quite straightforward,’ says Metrolinx CEO
The provincial government’s contentious plan to take ownership of the TTC subway system would be “quite straightforward” to implement, according to the CEO of Metrolinx.

Speaking to reporters after a meeting of the agency’s board on Friday, Phil Verster said the new Ontario PC government has asked Metrolinx, the regional transportation agency, to provide advice on its proposal to upload the subway to Queen’s Park
Verster said he had yet to meet with the special adviser the province appointed last month to chart a course for the plan, but those meetings are being arranged.

“(The province) will decide how to do the TTC upload. Metrolinx will offer advice and support for whatever the recommendations are … We’ll work with government to come up with the best solution,” he said.

As the provincial agency responsible for transportation planning in the GTHA, Metrolinx is the most likely organization to take over the subway, should the province follow through on its proposal.
While critics of the Conservatives’ plan have argued it would be endlessly complicated to split ownership of the TTC’s highly integrated network of buses, streetcars, and subways, Verster asserted it would be relatively simple.
Verster cited the agreement the province and TTC have reached over the Eglinton Crosstown LRT. The province is paying for construction of the $5.3-billion project, but, while the Ontario government will own the line once it opens in 2021, the TTC will operate it.

“It’s exactly the same model that will be required for the TTC upload,” Verster said.
The CEO, who will mark his one-year anniversary at the agency next month, stressed Metrolinx’s focus remains on its assets. He said he isn’t taking it as a given that it will soon take on Toronto’s subway lines, which have been owned by the TTC since the first stops opened in 1954.

“We’ve got enough that we are busy with now,” he said. He noted that Metrolinx is overseeing a major expansion of GO Transit service and building new LRT lines.
Ontario Transportation Minister John Yakabuski announced the appointment of Michael Lindsay as the government’s adviser on the subway-upload plan on Aug. 31.

Lindsay, a former vice-president at Infrastructure Ontario and director at engineering consultant firm Hatch, was given a one-year term, although there is no set date for him to make his recommendations.

Lindsay will lead a panel of up to three experts that will be appointed by the premier. The government has yet to publish terms of reference for the panel’s work.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...quite-straightforward-says-metrolinx-ceo.html
 

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