2018 Ontario Provincial Election Discussion

[Videodrome]

https://globalnews.ca/news/4212791/.../?utm_source=@globalnewsto&utm_medium=Twitter

Doug Ford is standing by Andrew Lawton.

 

[Northern Light]

Ford says he'll reduce gas prices by 10 cents per litre by cutting cap-and-trade, fuel tax

Moves would mean billions in lost revenue for Ontario's coffers

See link.

Expect vast service cuts, cuts, cuts, under Doug's proposal.

I'm not sure how this affect's Ford's numbers.

At first blush it plays to the 905 and his strength, populist bafflegab.

That said, the absence of any way to replace the revenue, when the deficit is already high in most people's judgement.........

I know I feel it should cause unease in some of the current PC bloc of voters, but whether that's just wishful thinking on my part I'm less clear on.

 

[steveintoronto]

It's Trickle Down Theory. It's already running down Doug's pant leg.

 

[SunriseChampion]

Ford says he'll reduce gas prices by 10 cents per litre by cutting cap-and-trade, fuel tax

Moves would mean billions in lost revenue for Ontario's coffers

See link.

Honestly, people are fucking stupid. I acknowledge the bluntness of my comment and offer no apology.

I just started driving a new vehicle that requires 91+ octane petrol. My old vehicle took 87 octane petrol. The new one has similar output (HP and torque) and is a 2.0L Turbocharged I4. The old one is an American "efficient" 4.7L V8 P.O.S.

My fuel now costs ~25% more. Or does it? The average voter can't do the math so, yeah, a 10% reduction in petrol costs might look like a good deal if you're driving an inefficient p.o.s. Mostly because I imagine those same people are the type that circle town or go out of their way or queue up for half an hour to get petrol that costs 5-10 cents/L less than elsewhere.

Absolute fail.

I can agree with one thing here: cut the cap-and-trade shell game! However, I'd replace it with a tax on carbon so I don't think Ford and I can be best buds.

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Just for fun: my new vehicle's fuel cost is actually ~30% less than the old vehicle's because of increased mileage. That's city driving. Highway driving, I'm looking at a 50%+ fuel savings even though the grade of petrol costs ~25%/L more! Viele Dank, Deutschland!

 

[SunriseChampion]

The Globe will probably say Conservative minority and dump Ford.

Or they'll endorse the Greens like they did that one federal election a decade ago. Don't remember the year....2006?

They'ré deffo about dumping Ford though.

 

[SunriseChampion]

He'll make up the billions by finding efficiencies! Doesn't the silly CBC know anything?!

Efficiency is getting more done with less. The clown doesn't know this.

 

[Videodrome]

Alan Carter
@ACarterglobal

PC candidate for Brampton East resigns. #onpoli

https://twitter.com/ACarterglobal/status/996899137588084736

 

[King of Kensington]

Agree with Martin Regg Cohn:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/sta...s-conspire-against-a-minority-government.html

 

[EagleEye]

It was a Progressive Conservative-free discussion at the Kimbourne Park United Church in East York Tuesday night, as candidates for the Liberal, Green Party and New Democratic Party parties squared off in an all-candidates' meeting leading up to the June 7 provincial election.

The same thing happened in Scarborough Southwest

 

[Northern Light]

It was a Progressive Conservative-free discussion at the Kimbourne Park United Church in East York Tuesday night, as candidates for the Liberal, Green Party and New Democratic Party parties squared off in an all-candidates' meeting leading up to the June 7 provincial election.

The same thing happened in Scarborough Southwest

There are conspiracy-minded folks here at UT.

Some of them awesome people, if a tad more inclined to that world view than yours truly.

I confess, I found the way the Patrick Brown exit was handled by the media and others to be worthy of intense scrutiny and skepticism, and I say that as someone who didn't much care for the man.

But in general, I hold the view that one should not ascribe to conspiracy that which stupidity will adequately explain.

However, the number of last minute PC candidates either withdrawing or not showing up for local debates is odd, in so far as I can't recall a like phenomenon.

I don't know how this all pans out.

But there's something terribly odd about this, if it is indeed all coincidence........its one hell of an exception to prove the rule.

 

[EagleEye]

PC candidates were also absent at debates this week in Eglinton-Lawrence, Beaches-East York, Mississauga-Streetsville, Scarborough- Rouge Park, Etobicoke-Lakeshore, Mississauga-Erin Mills.

I think with DoFo not answering any questions or saying where money will come from, they also won't have an answer. It's obviously strategic, just like it's strategic that the Liberal and Conservative lawn signs don't include the name of the party leaders who are both disliked, while the NDP signs show Andrew Horwath's name.

 

[adma]

Oh, skipping out on debates is nothing new for the PCs--I remember it being quite common in the 1999 election. A bit of avoiding the heat as Mike Harris standard-bearers, and a bit of "debates are overrated, anyway"...

 

[adma]

just like it's strategic that the Liberal and Conservative lawn signs don't include the name of the party leaders who are both disliked,

She thought otherwise

 

[syn]

How many PC candidates have been turfed or embroiled in some sort of controversy at this point?!

 

[syn]

Doug Ford attended Progressive Conservative fundraiser despite ban