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[Monarch Butterfly]

As far as I know, LRT tunnels are wider than our subway tunnels so that shouldn't be an issue.

Streetcar systems can handle tighter curves and steeper inclines than light rail. Light rail systems can handle tighter curves and steeper inclines than heavy rail. If heavy rail were ever to replace light rail, they'll have to rebuilt the curves and inclines.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

They are tearing down the McDonalds at Bayview and Eglinton.

 

[nfitz]

They are tearing down the McDonalds at Bayview and Eglinton.

Again?

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Again?

It won't die.

 

[someMidTowner]

It won't die.

Amateurs. You have to destroy the brain, otherwise it reanimates.

 

[CodeMonkey]

The Eglinton Subway from Eglinton West Station to Black Creek was to be heavy rail as it was cancelled by Mike Harris.

The Eglinton Subway was built out of compromise from the original Network 2011 plan that dropped the 1969 subway idea for a lower cost BRT. If built, the Eglinton Subway would have just been a stubway the same way as the Sheppard Subway is currently.

The Eglinton Crosstown LRT was never to be convertible to heavy rail. Please show us the links to any documentation (such as the Environmental Assessment) that shows us overwise.

The idea came up after the fact, at some point we know that Eglinton will have the density to support a subway, and the ~2 year wait that the SRT conversion to LRT proved that we should at least future proof now so we didn't have those problems later on. But that would require new EA's and designs, and the TTC and Metrolinx wanted this shovel ready, basically punting the problem to the next guy down the road.

The stations could be lengthen to accommodate longer trains, but the width will stay the same. The platforms will stay low floor, never to be raised for a high platform heavy rail.

Again, none of those ideas where included in the planning. Lengthening the station would require shutting down the station, and maybe parts of the line for safety. Not to mention that longer trains would defeat the L in LRT. They're not designed to carry HRT level traffic.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

The idea came up after the fact, at some point we know that Eglinton will have the density to support a subway, and the ~2 year wait that the SRT conversion to LRT proved that we should at least future proof now so we didn't have those problems later on. But that would require new EA's and designs, and the TTC and Metrolinx wanted this shovel ready, basically punting the problem to the next guy down the road.

I wonder if it would be at all feasible to convert half of the stations to subway, shut down for two weeks and convert the track level, and then convert the other half of stations. So there would be some inconvenience (as people would have to transfer onto Chaplin station rather than Bathurst, for instance), but we can keep the Crosstown running in the mean time.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

FYI.

From this link, the plans for a heavy rail Eglinton West subway included these stations:

At minimum, the light rail stops, west of "York Centre" now Mt. Dennis, should have stops at the proposed stations.

Roughly equal to the intersections of old proposed "Richview Expressway.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

I can't believe how close we were to screwing up our city with expressways.

 

[Steve X]

I can't believe how close we were to screwing up our city with expressways.

Yeah, Casa Loma was suppose to be ripped out. People didn't agree.

 

[Adjei]

http://www.metrolinx.com/en/aboutus/mediarelations/news/20160323_Artwork_for_Crosstown_Stations.aspx

 

[TheTigerMaster]

http://www.metrolinx.com/en/aboutus/mediarelations/news/20160323_Artwork_for_Crosstown_Stations.aspx

I hate these station names so much. I had no clue where Cedaevale was reading that thing.

 

[Steve X]

I hate these station names so much. I had no clue where Cedaevale was reading that thing.

There's also the argument that people have no idea where Museum, Queen's Park, St Patrick, Osgoode and St Andrew stations are located. Even names like Old Mill, Christie, Chester, Donlands and Main Street aren't name after well known streets.

 

[nfitz]

Yeah, Casa Loma was suppose to be ripped out.

No it wasn't. Casa Loma is west of the Spadina alignment (barely). Here's a drawing showing Casa Loma surrounded by expressways:

 

[Amare]

I can't believe how close we were to screwing up our city with expressways.

Well to be honest, Eglinton west of Black Creek probably would've been better off with an expressway running along it compared to the pathetic townhouse developments we see taking its place.

I agree with you on the other expressways though.