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edmundoconnor
Active Member
http://torontoist.com/2016/03/meeting-minutes-the-march-2016-council-watch-liveblog/
http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/viewAgendaItemHistory.do?item=2016.EX13.3
Ainslie, Augimeri, Campbell, and Holyday.
edmundoconnor
Active Member
Cho is angling to get the Crosstown East extension extended from UTSC to Malvern Town Centre, while Ainslie wants an express bus from Crosstown East to the Zoo.
Palma
Senior Member
why not wait and get it constructed at least till UTSC first. Who knows if that will really happen. Votes on council do not seem to mean anything
Voltz
Senior Member
Cho is an idiot, he screwed Malvern by eliminating any chance of getting rapid transit there by supporting the Scarborough Subway, bringing the SLRT to Malvern would have been much better and far cheaper.
Markster
Senior Member
It looks like Ainslie and Augimeri misvoted:
https://twitter.com/cllrainslie/status/715647181802315777
Steve X
Senior Member
Arguing if Eglinton can become heavy rail is stupid. If capacity fills up, just build another LRT on Lawrence (West of Yonge) or Wilson/York Mills. Build the Relief Line to Science Centre.
Getting Eglinton to fill up the more of a problem right now. It will be busy the first days not cause there is new riders but diverted riders from N-S bus routes and from Line 2.
Getting Eglinton to fill up the more of a problem right now. It will be busy the first days not cause there is new riders but diverted riders from N-S bus routes and from Line 2.
kotsy
Senior Member
As far as I know, LRT tunnels are wider than our subway tunnels so that shouldn't be an issue.
Johnny Au
Superstar
The Ghost of Rob Ford voted against, but since he's a ghost, his vote doesn't count.
Steve X
Senior Member
As long as they make the station ceiling very high, it's achievable. They can't redo the concrete after they cover it up.
Redoing the platform height can be very tricky as they'll need to ship the concrete in through the tunnel. Anyways, enough of this fantasy talk as converting to heavy rail is not feasible. This isn't Europe where they built pre-metro stations with high platforms and steps to meet low floor leveling.
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
If we are in the business of converting the Eglinton Crosstown to heavy rail, then we have much bigger problems than Eglinton.
Like what the hell would be happening to the Yonge Line if Eglinton is dumping 12-15k riders at Eglinton Station at rush hour.
Like what the hell would be happening to the Yonge Line if Eglinton is dumping 12-15k riders at Eglinton Station at rush hour.
darth_freeman
Active Member
Good point, hopefully riders will have incentive to transfer at Eglinton West instead.
rbt
Senior Member
24k to 30k; Eglinton feeds from both the East and the West and it's %age of through traffic will be much lower than Bloor Danforth.
The answer, is Eglinton gets 5 minute frequencies and people waiting on the platforms in order to pull the number of transfers down.
Steve X
Senior Member
That's not a problem that we need to worry about today nor the 2020s. I don't think the line is anywhere near that busy.
By the 2030s, hopefully the relief would be built and extended to Don Mills/Eglinton. The fare structure of GO RER may have changed to relief Mt Dennis. Unless Eglinton Centre becomes a major employment zone, there wouldn't be too much growth. The Bloor Danforth gets a lot of riders from Mississauga and Etobicoke from the west and Scarborough from the east. Eglinton wouldn't see as much demand from these area. The only real growth in ridership is any new residential buildings across Eglinton and new employment along the line.
Crosstown West extension would bring more people onto the central part of the Eglinton line. Crosstown East wouldn't as people will still transfer at Kennedy. For Rexdale area (northern Etobicoke), demand would shift to the Finch West LRT and getting to the Spadina line. The 191 should drop as people change their commuting patterns.
By the 2030s, hopefully the relief would be built and extended to Don Mills/Eglinton. The fare structure of GO RER may have changed to relief Mt Dennis. Unless Eglinton Centre becomes a major employment zone, there wouldn't be too much growth. The Bloor Danforth gets a lot of riders from Mississauga and Etobicoke from the west and Scarborough from the east. Eglinton wouldn't see as much demand from these area. The only real growth in ridership is any new residential buildings across Eglinton and new employment along the line.
Crosstown West extension would bring more people onto the central part of the Eglinton line. Crosstown East wouldn't as people will still transfer at Kennedy. For Rexdale area (northern Etobicoke), demand would shift to the Finch West LRT and getting to the Spadina line. The 191 should drop as people change their commuting patterns.
Towered
Superstar
Both Lawrence/Scarlett/Dixon and York Mills/Wilson/Albion should get surface LRT/BRT ROW's anyway as part of a future Transit City phase II.