Ridiculous comments and claims made by City Councillors

[Skeezix]

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Ranked choice, Di Ciano said, suffers “democratic short comings.” It’s complicated, produces drastic increases in voter error by disadvantaged, ethnic and elderly voters, it is costly, requires massive public education campaigns and complex voting machines.

Why do some people assume voters are stupid, particularly senior, poor and non-English speaking voters? If you're a certain age, below a certain income level, or have a mother language other than English, you're presumably too dumb to understand the ballot, and in this case in particular, the concept of ranking. (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) It's the same ridiculous assumption advocates of term limits make - that voters are inherently too stupid to be trusted.

 

[animatronic]

Why do some people assume voters are stupid, particularly senior, poor and non-English speaking voters? If you're a certain age, below a certain income level, or have a mother language other than English, you're presumably too dumb to understand the ballot, and in this case in particular, the concept of ranking. (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) It's the same ridiculous assumption advocates of term limits make - that voters are inherently too stupid to be trusted.

He's just working with Kouvalis to stir up shit. He probably figures that a referendum will be disruptive enough that he has an opening to run for mayor.

 

[christiesplits]

Yesterday I was on King Street," says Coun. Thompson. "There were all these LRTs stopped there, they couldn't move."

Matt Elliot @GraphicMatt

 

[Skeezix]

He's just working with Kouvalis to stir up shit. He probably figures that a referendum will be disruptive enough that he has an opening to run for mayor.

Perhaps - I don't doubt that. You're probably correct. But my original question still stands.

 

[WislaHD]

Yesterday I was on King Street," says Coun. Thompson. "There were all these LRTs stopped there, they couldn't move."

Matt Elliot @GraphicMatt

Quoting Salsa from the Scarborough thread so we keep the record of dumb Councilor statements from yesterday in this thread:

It's nice to see that the Tory braintrust at exec had another thoughtful and nuanced conversation on Scarborough transit today.

 

[DSC]

This comment by John Tory in his "commentary" in the Star accuses opponents of his $3 billion (and more) Scarborough subway of being racists rather that concerned citizens who want Scarborough to have MORE transit by spending scarce dollars wisely. He has gone WAAAAY down in my estimation.

"But many of the subway’s loudest critics do not live or work in Scarborough, where more than half the population is born outside of Canada. When they say this is too much to spend on a subway, the inference seems to be that it’s too much to spend on this part of the city."

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

This comment by John Tory in his "commentary" in the Star accuses opponents of his $3 billion (and more) Scarborough subway of being racists rather that concerned citizens who want Scarborough to have MORE transit by spending scarce dollars wisely. He has gone WAAAAY down in my estimation.

"But many of the subway’s loudest critics do not live or work in Scarborough, where more than half the population is born outside of Canada. When they say this is too much to spend on a subway, the inference seems to be that it’s too much to spend on this part of the city."

There is some irony of that coming from someone blue blood.

AoD

 

[WislaHD]

"When they say this is too much to spend on a subway, the inference seems to be that it’s too much to spend on this part of the city."

Ironically, John Tory gets it.

It is too much to spend on this part of the city. Though the reasons are not racism, but suburban population density.

 

[DSC]

This from today's; [UK] Guardian. An interesting article https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...ascinatingly-boring-city-guardian-canada-week

"But Giorgio Mammoliti, councillor for Ward Seven, has proposed a floating casino, a red-light district on the Toronto Islands, and an 11pm curfew for children under 14. He has blamed a few of his erratic comments on a brain fistula he had removed in 2013, but nobody has since been able to tell the difference in his behaviour."

 

[riffraff]

Oh, Tory gets it alright, may be something he learned from Rob. When you have facts and evidence that don't support you, make up inflammatory nonsense to stir up deep seated resentments to distract and divide. Meanwhile Mr Consensus is twisting arms at Council and bullying staff. Recall his successful switched Uber motion when it got to council.

I think he's worse than Ford was. Tory gets away with it because he's better connected and always wears better ties properly knotted. Ford talked anger, Tory talks condescension promoting his faith-based subway.

 

[salsa]

Councillor Holyday's latest stupidity: “If cyclists have exclusive use of infrastructure, they should also have to shoulder the cost of that.” He wants a report on licensing cyclists, something that the city studied and rejected three times already.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Councillor Holyday would like there to be NO bicycle lanes, NO bicycle paths, NO bicycle stands, NO bicycle racks on buses, NO anything for bicycles...

 

[WislaHD]

Seems like the right place to post this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mark-grimes-developers-1.3669349
Integrity Commissioner finds Coun. Mark Grimes had 'improper' relationship with developers

 

[Soop]

Councillor Holyday would like there to be NO bicycle lanes, NO bicycle paths, NO bicycle stands, NO bicycle racks on buses, NO anything for bicycles...

And no trees. Every time there is a motion about tree removal, no matter the circumstances, he votes to allow it.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Councillor Holyday's latest stupidity: “If cyclists have exclusive use of infrastructure, they should also have to shoulder the cost of that.” He wants a report on licensing cyclists, something that the city studied and rejected three times already.

Great idea re: shouldering the cost - so when are we tolling the Gardiner then?

AoD