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Why Does Hamilton Constantly Get Screwed?

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Jonny5 said:
Much of the highlighted area on that map is part of the McMaster Innovation park. They are building on it right now. In fact, I really can't figure out where a stadium could go there unless it was on the golf course.
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And not only that... even if nothing was being built on it, the land is still privately owned. The City already owns the land for the proposed West Harbor site.
 
theterribleone said:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/250163--longwood-and-aberdeen-for-stadium


http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...3.262206,-79.882965&spn=0.03219,0.076818&z=14

Maybe the GO station will be moved there.
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Anyone who has ever been to this part of Hamilton would know how idiotic putting a GO station in this location would be.

How impressive would it be if the powers who actually control the fate of this stadium just tell all nayersayers to STFU can get on with it.
 
Hamilton gets "screwed" because people in power don't have much of a connection with its downtown and therefore are not inclined to give it special treatment. From their perspective, the city is not getting screwed at all.

Some American cities that have lousy downtowns have managed to create powerful downtown lobby groups that succeed in bringing a lot of investment to the area. Mostly this is in the form of street-sucking megastructures like convention centres and stadia, and this brings white suburban families in from the weekend on $1B LRTs (that boast a ridership of 10,000 people per day) to watch a baseball game, eat wings at TGI Fridays and then return home. I think it's debatable whether this would be a better future for downtown Hamilton than what currently exists.
 
If you want to "save" Hamilton, the best way is to have all day, high frequency GO (preferably electrified) - Hamiltonians might hate the idea of being in the economic orbit of Toronto and acting as a big suburb for one, but that's already the reality in many ways. Why not capitalize on it and be the next hip and affordable place to be?

AoD
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
If you want to "save" Hamilton, the best way is to have all day, high frequency GO (preferably electrified) - Hamiltonians might hate the idea of being in the economic orbit of Toronto and acting as a big suburb for one, but that's already the reality in many ways. Why not capitalize on it and be the next hip and affordable place to be?

AoD
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I agree. Bring some money to the area.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
If you want to "save" Hamilton, the best way is to have all day, high frequency GO (preferably electrified) - Hamiltonians might hate the idea of being in the economic orbit of Toronto and acting as a big suburb for one, but that's already the reality in many ways. Why not capitalize on it and be the next hip and affordable place to be?
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Their opposition is absurd. Isolation never helps an area economically develop. Would they oppose improvements to the QEW?

Proper, all-day two-way to the TH&B station would also allow people to commute to jobs in Downtown Hamilton by GO, improving the area's desireability. Hamilton has the second highest level of employment within 1 km of all the GO stations, after Union.
 
Unfortunately it won't go to the TH&B station unless you pay Canadian Pacific a small fortune to use their tracks. Except for the existing rush hour service, everything is going to go to James Street. It's a pity--the TH&B station is an underused architectural gem.
 
DHLawrence85 said:
Unfortunately it won't go to the TH&B station unless you pay Canadian Pacific a small fortune to use their tracks. Except for the existing rush hour service, everything is going to go to James Street. It's a pity--the TH&B station is an underused architectural gem.
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I think widening the CP tunnel to the TH&B station would be one of the best uses of transit money in the entire GTHA. Better than a kilometre or two of Hamilton LRT. It's Hamilton's equivalent of terminating GO trains at Exhibition due to a lack of track capacity into Toronto Union Station.
 
CDL.TO said:
I think widening the CP tunnel to the TH&B station would be one of the best uses of transit money in the entire GTHA. Better than a kilometre or two of Hamilton LRT. It's Hamilton's equivalent of terminating GO trains at Exhibition due to a lack of track capacity into Toronto Union Station.
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It'd be ideal, but who's going to pay for that? GO isn't even considering it.
 
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