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cacruden
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Not to be too synical here
But do you think that the media might be setting him up as the front runner only to tear him down again :lol
It would fit a pattern....
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Not to be too synical here
But do you think that the media might be setting him up as the front runner only to tear him down again :lol
It would fit a pattern....
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Abeja de Almirante
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Bob Rae has declared his intention to seek the Liberal leadership. This would be a fabulous move for Conservatives in Canada, as the possibility of a Canada-wide repeat of Ontario's Rae Days, massive deficit spending, government general strikes and economic disarray would likely push more folks either to Harper or to Layton, with the balance going Green.
If I was in the Liberal Party, I'd post my vote for Rae 100%. My other top picks for Liberal leader, Hitler and the Devil aren't running, but Rae's likely to have similar effect.
If I was in the Liberal Party, I'd post my vote for Rae 100%. My other top picks for Liberal leader, Hitler and the Devil aren't running, but Rae's likely to have similar effect.
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bizorky
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It is interesting that Ignatieff is being questioned the most on the basis of the things that are actually known about him. The same would go for Rae, who is a known quantity at least in Ontario, but not so well understood except in terms of negative political perceptions.
I think this is a really interesting group of people. Whether they can transfer that intelligence into political accumen remains to be seen. But I am glad that there are some people with brains actually wanting to lead the Liberal party and possibly the country.
I think this is a really interesting group of people. Whether they can transfer that intelligence into political accumen remains to be seen. But I am glad that there are some people with brains actually wanting to lead the Liberal party and possibly the country.
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Suicidal Gingerbread Man
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Damn, you're an idiot.
Honestly, if all you're going to spew is conservative hyperbole, you don't even need to bother. This is also an Urban Toronto forum, yet most of your posts seem to be in the Politics section. Give it a rest.
As for Liberal leader.
I have been a fan of Dion for ages. Its a shame he's disliked by so many in Quebec, and for what? For passionately defending Canada, he's branded a traitor. Its sickening.
I also want to sew what Kennedy brings to the debate.
As for Ignatieff, if you have one of the most noted international policy experts in the world in the leadership race, the ideas raised can only be beneficial.
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Abeja de Almirante
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What have I said that can be considered conservative hyperbole? Are only left and liberal opinions and points of view to be welcomed here? The federal Liberals have done nothing for Toronto. I for one am willing to give the Conservatives a chance. Yes, it's an Urban Toronto forum, but politics should certainly be important to our largest city.
Honestly, I think SGM that you need to relax a little. I'm glad you're taking up knitting; perhaps that'll help bring down your blood pressure.
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bizorky
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^I know that you hate Rae, but just out of curiosity, why do you hate Rae?
Don't stop posting, I find the exchange interesting. Politics is about yacking back and forth anyway. Nothing wrong with that.
cacruden, I would agree with the question you have posed. There are members of the press that love doing this type of thing. they do it regardless of the party or the politics. Some news people like to make news. This is one approach.
Don't stop posting, I find the exchange interesting. Politics is about yacking back and forth anyway. Nothing wrong with that.
cacruden, I would agree with the question you have posed. There are members of the press that love doing this type of thing. they do it regardless of the party or the politics. Some news people like to make news. This is one approach.
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afransen TO
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It may not seem like it, but I like to have dissenting viewpoints around. This place gets rather intellectually incestuous without it. It's especially pleasing when the person with the dissenting viewpoint seems rational (though you may disagree with their premises).
Much better than Are Be...
Much better than Are Be...
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unimaginative2
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Yet you claim in another post that you will consider voting Liberal again...
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andreapalladio
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Oh, now, don't go expecting consistency or honesty from conservatives...
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Abeja de Almirante
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Why not? I am not married to any party, we never should blindly follow any party. It drives me crazy when my Italian and Spanish friends say they'll vote because they always have, or that their parents always have. That is maddness. I voted for the Conservatives because the Liberals stole millions upon millions of the peoples' money in the Adscam scandal in Quebec, and spent billions on a budgeted $20 million gun registry and have done nothing to meet firm past commitments on Kyoto or child poverty. Once every last turd of the past Liberals are gone, and new blood, honest blood is in leadership positions, doing good, honest, economically viable work (Iggy's desire to move the Libs to the left worries), I will of course consider voting liberal again.
So, you're saying that 5,374,071 voters who voted conservative in 2006 are inconsistent and dishonest? Over 36% of all voters are dishonest?
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andreapalladio
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Well, look at your leader. Why just today it was revealed that one of Harper's aides is a an ex-con and a disbarred lawyer. The dishonesty starts at the top.
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Abeja de Almirante
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He's not my leader, I don't belong to the conservative party. If there is an ex-con, he should be thrown out.
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andreapalladio
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You're the only one here following him...
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bizorky
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The Liberals stole millions? All the Liberals? If a member of the Conservative party committed a crime, does that mean that all Conservatives are criminals?
Yes, the gun registry was badly managed during its establishment; no doubt about it. But the Conservatives promise to do away with it, making that investment a total waste.
As for Kyoto, if you are so committed to Kyoto, WHY THE HELL DID YOU VOTE FOR THE CONSERVATIVES? Are you serious? Have you been reading the papers lately? Did you listen to the Conservative leader during the election? Are you expecting action from the Conservatives with respect to Kyoto?
Are the Conservatives committed to ending child poverty? You mean when they actually cancel a tax cut to low-income earners in favour of a break to the middle class? Do you mean the handing over of $1200 to parents instead of a viable and inexpensive daycare program? You may not be aware of this, but $1200 does not buy much daycare today.
You want the "turds" of the Liberals gone, I want the out-dated, turd-quality ideas of Conservatives put out to pasture. But that's politics, isn't it.
As for "economically viable," how have the Liberals failed at being economically viable - whatever that means?
As for a potential left-of-centre candidate, what's so wrong? Are we to believe only right-wingers? What makes the better? I look at the right wingers to the south and have to wonder.
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ganjavih
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I don't blame you for wanting to punish the Liberals... they deserved it. But you're extremely naive if you believe the Conservatives' tripe about honesty and integrity.