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Waterloo Region Transit Developments (ION LRT, new terminal, GRT buses)

KevinT said:
Great new video from Iain Hendry:

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Noticed the horizontial transit bars being used. Still not in the MTO diver's handbook, otherwise Toronto would them. They only allow the vertical bar.

See link.

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W. K. Lis said:
Noticed the horizontial transit bars being used. Still not in the MTO diver's handbook, otherwise Toronto would them. They only allow the vertical bar.

See link.

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The horizontal bars aren't bering used for any car traffic on the roads, so it doesn't really matter that they aren't in the Handbook.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Noticed the horizontial transit bars being used. Still not in the MTO diver's handbook, otherwise Toronto would them. They only allow the vertical bar.

See link.

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I wish an LRT driver can tell us if the transit signals are explained in their operating handbook.
 
Bytor said:
The horizontal bars aren't bering used for any car traffic on the roads, so it doesn't really matter that they aren't in the Handbook.
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I imagine part of the compromise here between the Region and MTO (or whoever) is that ION signals are clearly separate and train-related, rather than placed in the same housing as regular traffic signals (like in the handbook example), where they could be more easily confused.
 
W. K. Lis said:
The vertical bar is also not for any car traffic. Yet it is in the Handbook.
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Would it appease your nitpicking if I reworded it to "The horizontal bars aren't being used for any vehicle traffic on the roads, so it doesn't really matter that they aren't in the Handbook"? Because, really, you should have been able work out what I was meaning by that synecdoche. That vertical baron the traffic lights is for traffic in the lanes of the road governed by that traffic signal. The tram signals are not for vehicles on the roads so it doesn't matter whether they are vertical and horizontal bars, the Elder Futhark, or Sumerian cuneiform, and not knowing what they mean does not impact the driver's ability to operate their vehicle in a safe manner. They don;t need to be in the Drivers Handbook.
 
tmlittle said:
I imagine part of the compromise here between the Region and MTO (or whoever) is that ION signals are clearly separate and train-related, rather than placed in the same housing as regular traffic signals (like in the handbook example), where they could be more easily confused.
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I'm not sure the MTO would have a basis for complaint - those train signals go back more than a hundred years, deriving first from human semaphores, then mechanical ones.
 
Bytor said:
Would it appease your nitpicking if I reworded it to "The horizontal bars aren't being used for any vehicle traffic on the roads, so it doesn't really matter that they aren't in the Handbook"? Because, really, you should have been able work out what I was meaning by that synecdoche. That vertical baron the traffic lights is for traffic in the lanes of the road governed by that traffic signal. The tram signals are not for vehicles on the roads so it doesn't matter whether they are vertical and horizontal bars, the Elder Futhark, or Sumerian cuneiform, and not knowing what they mean does not impact the driver's ability to operate their vehicle in a safe manner. They don;t need to be in the Drivers Handbook.
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But they can be used by transit buses. Though in the rest of the world they wouldn't use it as Toronto uses it.


For buses, they use transit priority. For streetcars, no.
 
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