- Apr 24, 2007
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The problem with Transit First and the Waterfront has been Union Station since day one going back to 2004. The big issue is money and the unknowns how to fix Union 100% for everything with too many cooks in the kitchen. Union Station is so late and over budget and some 10 years late so far.Nobody doubts the QQE LRT is a good idea and this has been the case since about 2010 when the mantra was "transit first". There has been discussion of details but not the concept. What has been lacking, and still is, is political commitment and $. While it's good to see the Waterfront BIA keeping it on the radar, I am not sure that's enough.
When they dug the west concourse and started to build it, they found many columns not lining up or not in the right spot that the the new column extension had to be increase in size so all the existing columns line up correctly. Was in that hole a few times and have photos of those columns issues as well other. It was also pointed out to the media on a tour for them about the columns issues.
For me, the streetcar loop is the major holdup from day one as any extension to it will never handle the ridership for the whole waterfront redevelopment that was based on low density compare to what is now plan.
The city keep pushing things down the road that it has removed things from the Master Plan as they see it happen 50 years plus down the road as well not having funds to do it in the first place. Same applies to TTC.
TTC has preferred to use buses first than RT regardless what should be in place on day one to stop ppl needing a car to live/work or play in the new areas. Waterfront Toronto has always wanted RT from day one, but like the City and TTC don't have the funding to do the RT right from day one that they are short 2 LRT bridges with no foundation in place for them if money is found next week to build the bridges.
The idea of having affordable for the waterfront has been in the master plan, but how much and what type has never been on the table. What kind of affordably would go into building where the starting price is $2 Million for a unit as well how many??
Where are the sports fields for kids to play at today let along schools and community-based centre? Been built after everyone has moved in and only have to look at CityPlace that has seen the same thing already.
Transit is a must and long over due already by 8 years with another 4-7 years before it happens. I don't care if it happens as plan now or to Cherry St Loop, but the current plan is what I would like to see ASP than later
Its going to take 20 years or more to fully buildout the area and leaves us sometime to deal with the 2 missing bridges. The big push is to get the east-west line into service first and then let TTC and the city worry how to built and pay for the new Union Loop to meet the future ridership that is currently under estimated.
The 2 persons from the BIA who were part of the EA team sure made it known what they wanted to see happen.