VIVA + York Region Transit

[innsertnamehere]

The vast majority of TTC users have access to a car. So car ownership and a suburban built form aren't necessarily a deterrent to high transit use. Viva/YRT's problem is the poor level of service in terms of frequency and signal priority.

I wouldn't say this at all. A large percentage of Toronto households are car-free, and many many more are 1-car households compared to York Region.

York Region also has far higher incomes, higher income households are much less likely to take transit, especially since they are far more likely to have 2-3 cars in the household than in Toronto.

There are a lot of people with cars taking the TTC, yes. But less than you think, and many are from 1-car households where another family member needs the car, effectively making them "car free". York Region generally has mostly 2-car households which have higher rates of car availability.

 

[Undead]

That probably makes a difference at the margins, but I would still maintain that the biggest issue for YRT is their poor level of serivce.

 

[6ixGod]

I would probably pin this more on the demographics. Most people in the 905 would prefer either subways or their suv.

YRT VIVA suffers from forty minute headways and a poor feeder system and yet somehow that is called choice. Meanwhile, Finch West residents endure Line 6’s chronic delays and service gaps with far fewer alternatives. The difference is not preference it is access. York residents can choose to drive when transit fails….many on Finch West do not have that luxury.

This Americanised way of looking at public transport in Canada is the reason we are in this predicament.

 

[chrisw]

I haven't been here for awhile, but it's interesting at Richmond Hill Centre, they converted the automatic sliding doors to two single doors.

 

[A.Malik.77]

I haven't been here for awhile, but it's interesting at Richmond Hill Centre, they converted the automatic sliding doors to two single doors.

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I assume people complained that cold air kept blowing in everytime someone triggered the sensor or the repair costs were too much for YRT.

 

[cplchanb]

I assume people complained that cold air kept blowing in everytime someone triggered the sensor or the repair costs were too much for YRT.

Yea it was changed a while back. Makes sense though the door placement is quite awkward.

 

[Northern Light]

I haven't been here for awhile, but it's interesting at Richmond Hill Centre, they converted the automatic sliding doors to two single doors.

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The first thing that jumps out to me in this photo is the bench covered in snow.

Aside from the fact that staff should have used a broom to clear it off..........

It made me look at the canopy design, and along the glass walls.

I observe that the canopy, where said bench is located is unusually shallow even for this building, that seems to have been ill-considered, even 1 more meter might make a substantial difference. This can be modeled.

I also note the extended section of straight glass with out any wind mitigation barrier. That's not uncommon in bus terminals, given that there is an indoor waiting area if high wind is an issue. Still, particularly with a shallow canopy, it seems ill-thought out. Barrier may (or may not) have reduced blowing snow as an issue for the benches.

 

[cplchanb]

The first thing that jumps out to me in this photo is the bench covered in snow.

Aside from the fact that staff should have used a broom to clear it off..........

It made me look at the canopy design, and along the glass walls.

I observe that the canopy, where said bench is located is unusually shallow even for this building, that seems to have been ill-considered, even 1 more meter might make a substantial difference. This can be modeled.

I also note the extended section of straight glass with out any wind mitigation barrier. That's not uncommon in bus terminals, given that there is an indoor waiting area if high wind is an issue. Still, particularly with a shallow canopy, it seems ill-thought out. Barrier may (or may not) have reduced blowing snow as an issue for the benches.

the bench was added recently. even the heated indoor area was not part of the original building from 20 years ago. i wouldnt imagine back then the canopy was designed they had envisaged a bench being placed there 20 years later.