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shmoopie nhi
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^ Very well said.
I've had no problems with XP.
I've had no problems with XP.
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SD2
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There is no "perfect" system, so expecting one will leave you disappointed. Any new application tends to require some learning. So what else is new?
When did I say I expected a perfect system?
As we are talking about experiences, and since the experiences of one person are never an exact duplicate of another person; people will tend to make judgements on what they have encountered for themselves. Different people have different levels of tolerance for different things - for their own reasons. I could not care less what system someone uses. I say, use what you like, what works for you, what you feel comfortable with. You be the best judge of your own needs, and buy accordingly.
That's exactly what I tell people as well.
As for security issues, Mac does not have 90% of the market, so your supposition is just that, a supposition. Security is a problem for all networks and systems, and will be so for the the forseeable future.
Yes, but a reasonable supposition.
It was Metroman that suggested the cost of a cheaper PC was quite possibly "software conflicts, driver hell and all the headaches of an OS trying to accommodate every piece of hardware that can be installed". He's right - that's certainly possible. However, that's possible with any computer system. There are many people who use PC's that dont' really have any problems with them at all. That being the case, 'ease of use' doesn't quite justify the premium Apple will charge for hardware upgrades, etc.
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bizorky
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Yes, but a reasonable supposition.
But still just a supposition.
As for the "perfect" system, need you take everything so personally?
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SD2
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As for the "perfect" system, need you take everything so personally?
I thought you were referring to me. Simple mistake.
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bizorky
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^Not a problem.
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afransen TO
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I just know I'll be boycotting Vista as long as possible because of the outrageous DRM provisions in the OS.
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SD2
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^So will I. I'll probably pick up the 64-bit version of XP which should be fine for the next while.
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EnviroTO
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I'm happy to stay with my Suse Linux Desktop 10. I love the fact that with an older P4 2.2GHz with decent video card that I can have a desktop with full 3D features that have almost zero CPU impact it reaches about 2-4% utilization grabbing windows and shaking them and whipping them around the 'desktop cube'. The speed at which Linux is improving from version to version is impressive to me as well. I started playing with Red Hat 4.1 back in 1997 and that would have been a challenge to use for most users as configuration required editing text files and many things required the command prompt, I switched to Corel Linux when it released and brought focus to desktop usability. In this latest version of Suse, the first version of Linux to match Corel/Xandros compatibility with Windows networks, the OS required no configuration of hardware drivers to get all the components of the computer working except for the printer, it was all detected. I can't wait to see what version 11 brings in 2008.
The DRM in Vista has turned off my girlfriend from upgrading XP to Vista although there seems to be performance bottlenecks on XP... sometimes there are processes that take a long time to complete but the CPU and memory use doesn't hit anywhere near 100% leading to frustration. Both of us are curious if Vista would utilize resources more efficiently or if the system would simply be bogged down, but are hesitant to sign her computer over to a new level of the computer blocking us from doing what we want it to do for supposedly our own protection.
The DRM in Vista has turned off my girlfriend from upgrading XP to Vista although there seems to be performance bottlenecks on XP... sometimes there are processes that take a long time to complete but the CPU and memory use doesn't hit anywhere near 100% leading to frustration. Both of us are curious if Vista would utilize resources more efficiently or if the system would simply be bogged down, but are hesitant to sign her computer over to a new level of the computer blocking us from doing what we want it to do for supposedly our own protection.
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afransen TO
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I have to agree that there are many more user-friendly/idiot-proof versions of linux available, such as ubuntu. In the long run, though, the current windows and linux paradigm is pretty much doomed to be replaced by a microkernel. As computers become powerful enough that a slight increase in overhead isn't a significant problem, the case for microkernels (and their reliability) becomes strong.
In 10 years or so, I'm sure we'll have OSes available that just don't crash (mean time to failure>expected life of hardware). I've seen Minix 3 in action, an OS that's been under development for about a year. Most drivers are unable to bring down the system. They did a test where they forced the ethernet driver to fail something like 10 or 100 times per second (and once is usually enough to kill the OS) and experienced only a 20% decrease in network throughput. Impressive!
In 10 years or so, I'm sure we'll have OSes available that just don't crash (mean time to failure>expected life of hardware). I've seen Minix 3 in action, an OS that's been under development for about a year. Most drivers are unable to bring down the system. They did a test where they forced the ethernet driver to fail something like 10 or 100 times per second (and once is usually enough to kill the OS) and experienced only a 20% decrease in network throughput. Impressive!
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Ed007Toronto
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MetroMan1000
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I could go on and on ....and on about how perfect this is for my PC. All of my programs open 100% faster and smoothly! My CPU runs at 1% to 2% with several demanding programs open, my memory is comsumed a bit more, but i have more than enough anyways.
Vista is still based on the Windows Registry system. Wait 6 months and then report back to us at how fast your system is then.
That's one of the legacy problems: it is bloated and builds baggage real fast. This is why, as a PC user for decades, I had to format my PC on a regular (at least) bi-annual basis.
To clear up my earlier comment, when I said that Windows has to accommodate different hardware configurations, I meant that because Windows runs on a PC that can be configured in with endless hardware setups, it is prone to immense unpredictable problems.
Because Apple makes both the hardware and the OS, they know exactly what configurations are possible, thus avoiding driver conflicts. I have yet to ever install a single driver on my Mac. Any additional hardware I've purchased has worked flawlessly by simply plugging in. This includes all the printers I've connected my PowerBook and MacBook Pro to when on the go.
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afransen TO
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Apple does NOT NOT NOT make the hardware....
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spmarshall
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Ed,
Great link!
With Microsoft Vista, you don't own OS, OS owns you!
Great link!
With Microsoft Vista, you don't own OS, OS owns you!
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SD2
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Any additional hardware I've purchased has worked flawlessly by simply plugging in. This includes all the printers I've connected my PowerBook and MacBook Pro to when on the go.
I've had pretty much the same experience with XP. Anything I've plugged in - tablets, external hard drives, etc. have worked fine right away.
I'll often install the provided drivers just to be on the safe side, but I've never found it necessary.
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