ManyQuestions
Active Member
Honestly I haven’t rode an LRC since pre covid either but I was very disappointed when they started replacing the old tan seats.
I’ve only had ventures since covid and the rare HEP2 or ren set before they were retired.
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I’ve only had ventures since covid and the rare HEP2 or ren set before they were retired.
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
So far, it appears VIA is sticking to this LRC car retirement schedule. Cars must be out of service by January 31 of the year after the Retirement Year listed.
cplchanb
Senior Member
So to be clear, if the year is 2025 they must be gone by Jan 31 2026?
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
More here on the LRC Fleet in Decline: https://tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com/2024/05/vias-lrc-in-decline.html
Yes, an unusual way for VIA to portray the process. Here's the original text:
Bordercollie
Senior Member
So you have until December 31 2027 since it says 2026. But that's probably going to result in service cuts unless they can get those venture issues resolved.
dowlingm
Senior Member
Does anyone know what the Class column is meant to signify above? 3 vs 4, INT etc.?
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
After a few days' disruption, Set 7/25, also known as XS-J, a.k.a. DXS a.k.a.The Leftovers is back on its rotation, shown here from five levels up through Kingston a few minutes late at 1450 today operating as VIA No 47.
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
Believe it or not, VIA's Venture saga still simmers in the Quebec Superior Court, perhaps to be held in December or January, 2026. Well over a year since CN imposed its crossing speed reductions the Venture fleet in the Corridor. The latest developments in the Quebec case in this just-published post:
tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com
VIA and CN in Quebec Superior Court, Part 3
VIA moved its case against CN's crossing supplements to Quebec Superior Court, following the vacating of its application for judicial review...
tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com
robmausser
Senior Member
They should split these up and just run them each as the Sarnia trains.
Majority of the route is on non-CN track (Metrolinx to GEXR) and the GEXR portion is so slow you wouldn't even notice a speed restriction anyways if there were any.
The only portion thats CN is London to Sarnia, which is a small part of the route.
They run 3 car trains on that route already as it is.
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
VIA's Corridor rotation, designed for as much run-through service at Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal includes some trainsets getting 2-3 'legs' per day i.e.. 31-45-87, 84-46, 53-87 and different pairings each day for the Ventures. There are few 'legs' that are served by the same trainset throughout a week, with a few exceptions like LRC runs 67-79/72-66.
VIA's rotation also includes returning to Toronto or Montreal for servicing, refuelling, cleaning, running or heavy maintenance of these trainsets. Not that I disagree at all with your idea. It's just getting VIA to remarshal trainsets to different lengths, whether to evade the CN-imposed crossing speed reductions or otherwise, is like pulling hen's teeth - and they're pretty rare!
micheal_can
Senior Member
One thing that surprised me was that I was on a M-T Via and we were running late into Toronto. They said if you were on the train to Windsor to not worry as this train turns into it. Honestly,I though a train ends in the city listed on the schedule. Having them not listed as thru trains, but being thru trains may cause cascading issues along the network.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Right but less likely to miss your connection lol
micheal_can
Senior Member
That is what I thought. Had I been continuing west, it would have been simple. Still, what a mess it can make. I am wondering if any of the T-O trains actually go both ways beyond those terminals.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
The morning trains are most likely to be on time (obviously). I did however experience a half hour delay with the maple leaf departing in the morning. Could have been an issue with track slots Into Union in the morning.
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
Yes, standing outside the Toronto Union train shed, you'll not see too many VIA trains arrive or leave to the TMC, though some do. 'Back in the day' nearly every train terminated there and headed to Spadina coach yard and locomotives to servicing. Now, VIA has very few tracks allocated to it, and trains are stacked nose-to-tail on those tracks to head east or west as through trains.
Re: cascading yes, it's been an issue. Some of the most recent tweaks to VIA's Corridor rotation have made this worse, such as for train 71-76-668 with the same consist. For the last month, due to late arrivals of 76, 668 has left 20-50 minutes late each Monday night.