nfitz
Superstar
Prematurely?
I'd think it more likely there'll be a coroner's inquest one day that would conclude the opposite.
Obviously with the new train sets already being delivered, this isn't about privatization.
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I'd think it more likely there'll be a coroner's inquest one day that would conclude the opposite.
Obviously with the new train sets already being delivered, this isn't about privatization.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Is there no way to put that first train into service now? Has it officially been accepted by VIA?
Haven't seen it in a while. Is it going through some tweeks?
I haven't seen any photos of the second trainset, anyone know if it is completed?
Urban Sky
Senior Member
I acknowledge that we all do mistakes, but I would appreciate if you would next time at least consider that something might be wrong with your post when someone seemingly struggles to identify any link between what you quoted and what you wrote and maybe even have a quick glance over the post in question before you write two more posts which just add to the confusion as nobody would know what you are talking about by simply reading your post:
You seem to believe that railroads in this country have the certification power to decide when a new type of trainset can transport revenue passengers…
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roger1818
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Given that the new trains will be significantly cheaper to operate, VIA will be more anxious than anyone to get the new train(s) into service, but as anyone who has been keeping up with the O-Train inquiry will know, taking shortcuts on the validation process is a recipe for disaster.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
That's a bit of a different situation given that the entire system was new.
Are there any other stop gap solutions until the new trains can enter service?
Possibly sidelining the HEP fleet during COVID using LRC'S exclusively was not such a good idea in hindsight.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Developing a new timetable at VIA used to be a process which took several months in which crafting a new cycling plan is by far the most time-consuming task. With the arrival of Covid, the entire lead time shrank to 2-3 weeks (or even a single week in late-March 2020). The only way to make this happen was to drastically reduce the number of iterations which was circulated for feedback from the various stakeholders and that required that all train sets were identical.
By September 2020, enough timetable scenarios had been developed ahead of an actual management decision to increase service, so that HEP cars could be reintroduced (IIRC, the weekend-only trains which were reintroduced on September 11, 2020 were all-HEP) and I believe that they remained in service since then…
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
Since so many were idle could they have accelerated the rebuilt program for the HEPII's?
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Sure, but how much more taxpayer money do you want to waste on 70-75 year old cars which will finally become obsolete in less than 5 years, i.e. after twice their regular lifespan?
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Isn't the plan to rebuild them all anyways? So doing it quicker would be a waste how?
We still don't have replacements for non corridor fleet so it will be more than 5 years.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
No HEP2 car is used for non-corridor services and if there is one car type for which there certainly won‘t be any shortage after the HEP-I cars currently deployed on the Corridor get swapped out for the new fleet, it will be coaches…
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crs1026
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With GO coaches currently sidelined, and need for the full fleet likely years away, I can see plenty of room to reactivate a half dozen specifically for the Kingston and London "commuter" markets. Not ideal, but a shortstop until sufficient new Siemens trainsets are available. I would not want these trains to see expedited Charger use - whatever cycling plan VIA has during the transition period should not be impacted.
Locomotives with compatible HEP may be the kicker.
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Locomotives with compatible HEP may be the kicker.
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Urban Sky
Senior Member
Wouldn’t be the first time GO helps out VIA when their LRC cars are falling apart:
VIA Operation Axle, March-June 1992
VIA No 62 arrives at Kingston on March 30, 1992 with 6413-15420-5584-3246-5448 (above). VIA No 63 arrives one hour later with 6425-15478-...
tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com
Bordercollie
Senior Member
In these cases was it VIA crews since it was led with a VIA locomotive?Wouldn’t be the first time GO helps out VIA when their LRC cars are falling apart:
VIA Operation Axle, March-June 1992
VIA No 62 arrives at Kingston on March 30, 1992 with 6413-15420-5584-3246-5448 (above). VIA No 63 arrives one hour later with 6425-15478-...
As the situation with the LRC'S get worse I wonder if there are talks going on to lease GO equipment?
I guess the schedules will need to be tweeked since the BI-levels can only run at 90mph.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
The blogpost mentions also GO-locomotives and provides one example of a three-bilevel consist hauled by one of GO‘s F59.
I have no information on this, but it would only work for captive cycles which can be crewed out of Toronto, for instance 82-83, 85-88 or 650-651 (which would even allow for maintenance windows on weekends)…
That would be the least of the problems, as no schedules assume speeds in excess of 95 mph and especially the train numbers I’ve just mentioned hardly ever reach that stop speed…
Bordercollie
Senior Member
I would think that training Metrolinx crews to work on these trains would be easier than using via crews since there is a larger pool to work from. The train mater? ( Not sure if the title) would be a VIA employee collecting tickets.