Bordercollie
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With greyhound pulling out where could VIA pickup the slack? London? Guelph? Kitchener?
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Urban Sky
Senior Member
Most of the slack will be picked up by other bus services, like Orleans Express, Megabus, GO Transit or Ontario Northland. VIA's ability to expand services beyond their pre-Covid levels is constrained by the limited nature of its fleet, funding, mandate and infrastructure access...
Allandale25
Senior Member
roger1818
Senior Member
^^^Looks nice! And from VIA's Website:
corpo.viarail.ca
EDIT: Also from their website for those concerned about how it will transition to the rest of the train:
New Fleet Exterior Design Reveal | VIA Rail
Starting next year, you’ll be seeing something new in the Québec City-Windsor corridor. Something bold, evocative and never-before-seen on Canadian tracks.
EDIT: Also from their website for those concerned about how it will transition to the rest of the train:
sacred
Active Member
Video !
cplchanb
Senior Member
not bad, thought the randomly cut off stripe and grey slab still looks strange to me...
cplchanb
Senior Member
i guess that answers the question of whether the cab would look like the loco or not.
cplchanb
Senior Member
Projects & Infrastructure | VIA Rail
VIA Rail is working on modernizing its services and infrastructure: service design, rolling stock, rails, and stations. Discover our innovative projects!
their cover render shows a nice side view of the loco and first car
Fleet Replacement Program | VIA Rail
With our new bi-directional trains, we’ll take you where you need to go while providing a comfortable, accessible, eco-friendly experience.
cab car here. Looks like they removed all references of the original concept livery
About VIA | VIA Rail
Welcome aboard! Learn more about VIA Rail: our company, projects and infrastructure, community engagement...
in fact the whole site is filled with the new trains!
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Garuda
Active Member
The maple leaf at the back should be done. Certainly doesn’t work with the rest of the design. But at least it’s smaller now.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Bordercollie
Senior Member
But will these new trainsets be enough to replace everything in the corridor?
Will the P42's be retired since we no longer will have a need for them?
If we continue to require F40's for other services will they not need another life extension seeing that there is currently no order for non corridor fleet replacement?
Will the P42's be retired since we no longer will have a need for them?
If we continue to require F40's for other services will they not need another life extension seeing that there is currently no order for non corridor fleet replacement?
crs1026
Superstar
It depends on how you define "the corridor". The new order replaced the old fleet seat-for-seat. The new fleet will be more reliable, so there will be some margin of growth possible. The question is how long it will take to "max out" that capacity.
A lot depends on the HFR decision. That decision is said to include a further order for more trainsets. If HFR proceeds, the fleet will grow. If it doesn't, well, the outcome is better than status quo.
The P42's are at end of life in terms of maintainability - parts supply etc. Maybe someone will buy them, but don't count on it.
The time to ask that question is after the Siemens order has arrived and been in service for long enough to give data on its reliability and performance capability. If the results are positive, one might look to Siemens to provide a loco that has parts commonality in whatever body shell works best for long distance trains. If the results are less impressive, one would explore what the market can offer. The F40's are young enough still that there's no need to rush that decision.
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
AMTRAK already has the data for Long distance chargers. Why do we need to duplicate the data?
Not sure how much longer the legacy fleet can hold on for. It would make sense to retain some of the LRC's that are in good condition and use them in areas outside of the corridor. I mean if they are more reliable than the rebuilt HEP Fleet that should tell you something.
roger1818
Senior Member
I've gone over this before, but according to VIA's cycling plan, they have 28 trains in active service with a total of 1556 business class seats and 6270 economy seats for a total of 7826 seats. Assuming VIA receives 32 of each train car configuration to make 32, 5 car trains (each with 87 business seats and 198 economy seats) and they have the same 28 trains in operation (with 4 spares), that would give VIA a total of 2436 business class seats and 5544 economy seats for a total of 7980 seats in operation (not including the spares). Thus the overall capacity increases slightly, but there is a modal shift to more business class seats and fewer economy class seats. If VIA has some of the Business 3B cars (which aren't used in the short and extra short configurations) built as economy cars (which are needed for the extra long configuration), the overall capacity increases even further (since economy cars have more seats than business cars).
That is my understanding, since it's apparently impractical to refurbish them.
Didn't they just finish refurbishing them? Regardless, according to VIA's .2020-2024 Corporate Plan they are exploring the replacement of their Long-Distance and Regional fleet. Until then, they require "$14.6 million per year to maintain the current fleet in a state of good repair." Having 19 extra F40s left over from corridor use will give them more spares to work with until then.
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