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wopchop said:
Who are these people? I would think that the majority of people feel the opposite. In the GTA for example, trains are predominantly riden by middle and upper class people.
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@robmausser never claimed that his circle of friends and social contacts was representative of the general population of the GTHA or elsewhere. The same is true for myself, as my social circles are heavily skewed towards people who are similar to my own demographic, by being much more likely to having been born in Europe, being in their early thirties, holding a university degree and working in the corporate world than the general population in Montreal, Quebec, Canada or North America...
 
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wopchop said:
Who are these people? I would think that the majority of people feel the opposite. In the GTA for example, trains are predominantly riden by middle and upper class people.
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While it might be true that in the GTA, trains are predominantly ridden by middle and upper class people (I don't live in the GTA, so I wouldn't know if it is true or not), that doesn't mean most middle and upper class people in the GTA ride trains.
 
roger1818 said:
While it might be true that in the GTA, trains are predominantly ridden by middle and upper class people (I don't live in the GTA, so I wouldn't know if it is true or not), that doesn't mean most middle and upper class people in the GTA ride trains.
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Before the pandemic, I think it was reported that a large percentage of riders have more than one car, but choose to take the train. Also consider that downtown workers are mostly financial district workers who likely earn a higher income than some people in roles like manufacturing.

So not all public transit users are less wealthy.
 
Bordercollie said:
Before the pandemic, I think it was reported that a large percentage of riders have more than one car, but choose to take the train. Also consider that downtown workers are mostly financial district workers who likely earn a higher income than some people in roles like manufacturing.

So not all public transit users are less wealthy.
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I never said all public transit users are less wealthy. I said not all wealthy people use public transit. Just because wealthy people use transit doesn't mean that all wealthy people use transit.
 
crs1026 said:
The lower front is likely some form of fiberglass or plastic. High potential to be damaged and require replacement.

The underlying frame and collision post structure is what matters, and it's steel.

- Paul
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I wonder if it has a horn leaver at the back for reverse moves?
 
Allandale25 said:
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Another angle.

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E•MO•TION said:
I believe the option is for HFR should it come to fruition.
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theyll probably try to tack on to the amtrack long distance train order when they launch the LD replacement program.
i wonder if they will still be pulling the ancient HEPs or will they order a new coach set as well?
 
E•MO•TION said:
I believe the option is for HFR should it come to fruition.
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Makes sense since these would be the shorter distance intercity model. I don't think we will see the option excersised though. In the current political climate with an election looming and a budget that will not likely provide funding for the project, the dream of HFR seems to be fading away quickly.
 
2transpo said:
Makes sense since these would be the shorter distance intercity model. I don't think we will see the option excersised though. In the current political climate with an election looming and a budget that will not likely provide funding for the project, the dream of HFR seems to be fading away quickly.
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The options were retained because the extra trains are required for the frequency increases that are the core of the HFR project. Even with the reduced travel times and increased equipment utilization enabled by dedicated tracks, more trainsets are needed to achieve hourly service along the core segment from Montreal to Toronto via Ottawa, especially if good service via Kingston is retained.
 
Allandale25 said:
Another angle.

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Really can't wait to see this unveiled in Montreal.😍😍😍😍

Not sure if this has already been asked - but how is the new train set going to deal with different platform heights? For example, at Montreal Gare Central is there an automated step/extension to bridge the gap with the higher platform (instead of the current metal plaque that attendants manually install when in MTL...).
 
2transpo said:
Makes sense since these would be the shorter distance intercity model. I don't think we will see the option excersised though. In the current political climate with an election looming and a budget that will not likely provide funding for the project, the dream of HFR seems to be fading away quickly.
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First, I would caution against any kind of conclusions at this stage without any reliable sources, at least not until the JPO results are released. Second, keep in mind that the CIB has already invested some $70+ million into the JPO for HFR and has given very clear signals of their involvement. Third, we still don't know if there will be an election in 2021 given the complexities created by Covid - and even if there is an election - it doesn't mean high priority infrastructures need to be placed on hold. From a macroecon level, given the historically low interest rates/borrowing costs and the need to jump start the economy, there is every incentive for any gov't to invest more in heavy infrastructure as an easy way to boost short/medium term growth.
 
SFO-YYZ said:
Really can't wait to see this unveiled in Montreal.😍😍😍😍

Not sure if this has already been asked - but how is the new train set going to deal with different platform heights? For example, at Montreal Gare Central is there an automated step/extension to bridge the gap with the higher platform (instead of the current metal plaque that attendants manually install when in MTL...).
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You haven't seen the passenger cars yet so how do you know that there is an issue with the height?
 
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