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81-717 said:
I wasn't implying you don't like it, I was just wondering if you'd see it as outdated now (obviously being outdated doesn't mean bad, and it's entirely possible & valid to like outdated designs more than modern ones).
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Yes, I said the design is 7-8 years old and I would make changes to it if I were doing a new one today.

But I will add: I don’t think it’s as dated looking as the first new train car renders that were put out. And it’s not just being dated. There’s something a bit unrefined about the TRs. I think the Azur trains in Montreal were much more thoughtfully designed. That’s why I was disappointed with the prospect of a TR clone.
 
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Yes, I said the design is 7-8 years old and I would make changes to it if I were doing a new one today.

But I will add: I don’t think it’s as dated looking as the first new train car renders that were put out. And it’s not just being dated. There’s something a bit unrefined about the TRs. I think the Azur trains in Montreal were much more thoughtfully designed. That’s why I was disappointed with the prospect of a TR clone.
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I'm no fan of the TRs in general, but as far as I know everyone thought they looked top-of-the-line/futuristic when they first came out, so I still struggle to view them as outdated/vintage at this point already (it's been only 15 years, and the youngest aren't even 10 yet). And I struggle to see the TR clone as more outdated than yours, since yours appears more boxy (again, not saying that's a bad thing), just like I'd say the R211 appears more outdated than the TR despite being more than a decade newer. I did like the idea of having the TR clone supplementing the TRs, because I felt that it looked like a sleeker & more refined version of the TR (i.e. the single-piece smooth windshield with red paint was a nice touch vs. that of the TR), but on the plus side there'll be more variety with what we'll end up getting, if that's the final version they'll move forward with.
 
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81-717 said:
I'm no fan of the TRs in general, but as far as I know everyone thought they looked top-of-the-line/futuristic when they first came out, so I still struggle to view them as outdated/vintage at this point already (it's been only 15 years, and the youngest aren't even 10 yet). And I struggle to see the TR clone as more outdated than yours, since yours appears more boxy (again, not saying that's a bad thing), just like I'd say the R211 appears more outdated than the TR despite being more than a decade newer. I did like the idea of having the TR clone supplementing the TRs, because I felt that it looked like a sleeker & more refined version of the TR (i.e. the single-piece smooth windshield with red paint was a nice touch vs. that of the TR), but on the plus side there'll be more variety with what we'll end up getting, if that's the final version they'll move forward with.
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People’s aesthetic preferences are subjective. I was never too keen on the TR design to begin with. So seeing the first proposals looking very similar was disappointing. And then there’s seeing other cities like Vancouver, Paris and Lisbon with what I think are more attractive trains. I do think we might be approaching the point of really over analyzing the issue now, though.
 
Been fixings tags and streamlining photos shot over the year as well adding more info to them. While working on Marseille France transit photos, I check to see what the LRV's were and surprised they were Bombardier Flexity Outlook not the Alstom cars I thought they were at the time. I shot a few in 2012 between train connections to Nice. BBD delivery 26 of them at 32.5 m as 5 sections in 2007 only to add 10 m for a 7 section in 2012 at 42.5 m. Maybe BBD should have offer TTC this model in place what we have today

CAF is suppling 15 Urbos 100X based on BBD design for line 3 extension. The first arriving in July 2025 and enter service January 2026 with the rest to be delivery by 2030.

Nice ROW with no concrete like St Clair or QQ with a single lane of traffic.
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At least it wasn't on Groundhog's Day...

Car stuck in Queens Quay tunnel, shuttle buses replacing streetcars​

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A vehicle drove into the Queens Quay streetcar tunnel leading to Union Station and got stuck, according to the TTC.

The TTC posted on X at approximately noon on Tuesday, saying there is no streetcar service between Queen Quay West at Lower Spadina and Union Station on both 509 and 510 streetcar routes due to an auto stuck on the tracks. Shuttle buses are running to replace the streetcars.

A dark coloured Honda sedan appears to have driven down the tunnel, which begins near York Street, and managed to get as far as the platform at the Queens Quay Terminal stop.

TTC crews were seen operating a hydraulic rail crane to extract the vehicle from the tunnel.

It is unclear whether the driver remained on scene or if any charges will be laid.
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Didn't cars already tried to enter the tunnels for Line 5 or Line 6?
 
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Monarch Butterfly said:
At least it wasn't on Groundhog's Day...

Car stuck in Queens Quay tunnel, shuttle buses replacing streetcars​

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Didn't cars already tried to enter the tunnels for Line 5 or Line 6?
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I don't know if impressed is the right word for the driver to make it all the way to the platform. That's a very long distance to drive on/around raised streetcar tracks.
 
And Line 2 was down for signal issues for 2+ hours Broadview to Vic Park. Judging by the way my train is crawling, there are still some gremlins in the works
 
A somewhat less noticed report on today's TTC agenda was for contracts awarded with a value greater than 5M.


From the above, I have selected three that caught my attention:


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Huh? Yes, the TTC owns the land on Kipling....but I don't recall there being any money in the budget to deliver this project in the next decade.......so why are we spending 20M on design here?

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This next one seems more reasonable in price and will be of interest to many here:

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This last one is a fine project.....but that price......how? Is Mx somehow grifting on this one?

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Northern Light said:
A somewhat less noticed report on today's TTC agenda was for contracts awarded with a value greater than 5M.


From the above, I have selected three that caught my attention:


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Huh? Yes, the TTC owns the land on Kipling....but I don't recall there being any money in the budget to deliver this project in the next decade.......so why are we spending 20M on design here?

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This next one seems more reasonable in price and will be of interest to many here:

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This last one is a fine project.....but that price......how? Is Mx somehow grifting on this one?

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Better to have a design in place for the Western Yard encase funds show up down the road from all levels than starting design work when funding announce It will save years getting the yard built once funding is found with construction starting sooner than later.
 
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Better to have a design in place for the Western Yard encase funds show up down the road from all levels than starting design work when funding announce It will save years getting the yard built once funding is found with construction starting sooner than later.
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Perhaps, but my instincts lean differently.

My first reason is that the City has had a recent habit of designing then deferring and then having to redesign because the old design no longer reflects current needs, current materials or current codes or because as-built conditions have changed.

My second reason that the TTC has current, real, pressing needs that are unfunded. 20M will get you a Dundas Station with Platform Edge Doors or 4 or more stations adding washrooms, amongst other things.

I find it hard to justify at this point.

I also frankly don't see the need based on current subway expansion plans.

The only project that justifies another subway yard on Line 2 is a possible western extension which is not on the table currently.

For the buses, we already have surplus fleet with a bloated spare ratio; lots of buses will be freed up by ongoing subway/LRT expansion projects, and if we made proper use of TSP, turn restrictions and other measures along with taking bloat out of the schedules we could achieve a further 20% service increase with what we have.
 
All the TTC service changes for Sunday still aren't posted......

But i have most of it.........the format sucks so I'll just post one change for now.....because @PL1 would be interested. 51A/B will both run headway in the 24 m range.....but they are supposed to be inter-laced such that service from Donlands Stn to Eglinton should, in theory, improve to every 12' give or take.
 
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All the TTC service changes for Sunday still aren't posted......

But i have most of it.........the format sucks so I'll just post one change for now.....because @PL1 would be interested. 51A/B will both run headway in the 24 m range.....but they are supposed to be inter-laced such that service from Donlands Stn to Eglinton should, in theory, improve to every 12' give or take.
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That's definitely the one I need... Current 56 NB is 15 min service when I need it (there are a couple of extra runs for the high school crowd). Every 12 min is an improvement, though the forced transfer may eat into that
 
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