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[81-717]

No? Obviously I like what I created otherwise I wouldn’t have shared it.

I wasn't implying you don't like it, I was just wondering if you'd see it as outdated now (obviously being outdated doesn't mean bad, and it's entirely possible & valid to like outdated designs more than modern ones).

 

[APTA-2048]

I wasn't implying you don't like it, I was just wondering if you'd see it as outdated now (obviously being outdated doesn't mean bad, and it's entirely possible & valid to like outdated designs more than modern ones).

Yes, I said the design is 7-8 years old and I would make changes to it if I were doing a new one today.

But I will add: I don’t think it’s as dated looking as the first new train car renders that were put out. And it’s not just being dated. There’s something a bit unrefined about the TRs. I think the Azur trains in Montreal were much more thoughtfully designed. That’s why I was disappointed with the prospect of a TR clone.

 

[81-717]

Yes, I said the design is 7-8 years old and I would make changes to it if I were doing a new one today.

But I will add: I don’t think it’s as dated looking as the first new train car renders that were put out. And it’s not just being dated. There’s something a bit unrefined about the TRs. I think the Azur trains in Montreal were much more thoughtfully designed. That’s why I was disappointed with the prospect of a TR clone.

I'm no fan of the TRs in general, but as far as I know everyone thought they looked top-of-the-line/futuristic when they first came out, so I still struggle to view them as outdated/vintage at this point already (it's been only 15 years, and the youngest aren't even 10 yet). And I struggle to see the TR clone as more outdated than yours, since yours appears more boxy (again, not saying that's a bad thing), just like I'd say the R211 appears more outdated than the TR despite being more than a decade newer. I did like the idea of having the TR clone supplementing the TRs, because I felt that it looked like a sleeker & more refined version of the TR (i.e. the single-piece smooth windshield with red paint was a nice touch vs. that of the TR), but on the plus side there'll be more variety with what we'll end up getting, if that's the final version they'll move forward with.

 

[APTA-2048]

I'm no fan of the TRs in general, but as far as I know everyone thought they looked top-of-the-line/futuristic when they first came out, so I still struggle to view them as outdated/vintage at this point already (it's been only 15 years, and the youngest aren't even 10 yet). And I struggle to see the TR clone as more outdated than yours, since yours appears more boxy (again, not saying that's a bad thing), just like I'd say the R211 appears more outdated than the TR despite being more than a decade newer. I did like the idea of having the TR clone supplementing the TRs, because I felt that it looked like a sleeker & more refined version of the TR (i.e. the single-piece smooth windshield with red paint was a nice touch vs. that of the TR), but on the plus side there'll be more variety with what we'll end up getting, if that's the final version they'll move forward with.

People’s aesthetic preferences are subjective. I was never too keen on the TR design to begin with. So seeing the first proposals looking very similar was disappointing. And then there’s seeing other cities like Vancouver, Paris and Lisbon with what I think are more attractive trains. I do think we might be approaching the point of really over analyzing the issue now, though.