TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[SubHuman]

... I don't believe your link between visible mental illness and/or addiction and persons at track level is correct...

From what I can see, apparently the number of these incidents reported went from:
110 in 2018 (cbc.ca),
then to "closer to 600" in 2022 (Toronto Star),
then "In 2024 ... alone, 724 “unauthorized track-level” incidents occurred".

I have trouble believing it's always a new person doing this for the first time, when it's happening this often. It just seems as though maybe the authorities prefer to ignore the situation and no one wants to take the responsibility for their inaction -- not just for the TTC delays, but also the mentally unsound individuals endangering themselves.
If they don't bother keeping track of individual offenders, how would they know?

At St. George Station on Dec. 14, 2023, a person was said to have been apprehended three times under the Mental Health Act in a span of 24 hours, twice by TTC constables and once by Toronto cops...

TTC spokesperson Stuart Green said while individual offenders aren’t tracked, the agency’s constables said repeat track-level offences aren’t typical...

A mischief charge was laid on April 29 of this year after a person was seen on the catwalk past the end gate at Spadina Station “squatting with their pants around their knees (and) smoking an (unknown) substance.” ...
On May 17, 2024, at Eglinton Station, a male was brought back to the platform, where he told an officer he heard “voices telling him to go to track level and to act like a monkey.”

 

[Jonny5]

I'm not sure what's more funny, that the TTC could make this error, or that the Toronto Star, reporting about the error, then themselves made the exact same error in the article text.

TTC removing ads featuring transit route error

The posters encourage riders to take the 506 Carlton streetcar from Spadina station to Kensington Market, which is impossible.

www.thestar.com

 

[max]

I'm not sure what's more funny, that the TTC could make this error, or that the Toronto Star, reporting about the error, then themselves made the exact same error in the article text.

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TTC removing ads featuring transit route error

The posters encourage riders to take the 506 Carlton streetcar from Spadina station to Kensington Market, which is impossible.

www.thestar.com

TTC wizards know you gotta go to Bathurst station and catch the 506 short turn.

 

[Amare]

Maybe they mean the bustition 506?

Because these days all the streetcar routes are bustittued anyways, and go to whichever station is feasible.

Not that i'm complaining with the glacial speeds of streetcars in this city.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Maybe they mean the bustition 506?

Because these days all the streetcar routes are bustittued anyways, and go to whichever station is feasible.

Not that i'm complaining with the glacial speeds of streetcars in this city.

Toronto is know world-wide as having the SLOWEST tram/streetcar network in the world. We know why, but it changing it that is difficult.

 

[Amare]

Toronto is know world-wide as having the SLOWEST tram/streetcar network in the world. We know why, but it changing it that is difficult.

It's not difficult to change, it's just that there's no political/institutional will in this supposed "world-class" embarrassment of a city.

 

[bearcat]

It's not difficult to change, it's just that there's no political/institutional will in this supposed "world-class" embarrassment of a city.

I am pretty sure @Monarch Butterfly meant the lack of political/institutional will as the difficulty.

There is certainly no insurmountable issues from a technical perspective. Other countries have figured it out.

 

[DSCToronto]

The CEO Report notes:

"The TTC is also working on a pilot to develop automatic camera enforcement technology for motorists who pass open doors, which will capture the incident and license plate information. Testing is scheduled to begin late next year." Getting the OK from the Province to allow this was TTC policy for several years and was successful about 2 years ago. Good to see how much importance the TTC put on safety! If 'testing' only starts 'late next year', I assume we can expect a full roll-out by about 2030 and full implementation by 2050.

 

[Towered]

The CEO Report notes:

"The TTC is also working on a pilot to develop automatic camera enforcement technology for motorists who pass open doors, which will capture the incident and license plate information. Testing is scheduled to begin late next year." Getting the OK from the Province to allow this was TTC policy for several years and was successful about 2 years ago. Good to see how much importance the TTC put on safety! If 'testing' only starts 'late next year', I assume we can expect a full roll-out by about 2030 and full implementation by 2050.

Won't be necessary - by then we'll all be chauffeured around by AI driven vehicles...

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Won't be necessary - by then we'll all be chauffeured around by AI driven vehicles...

Depends upon the "programming", if they give priority to the 200+ onboard streetcars or the zero people inside an AI vehicle.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Won't be necessary - by then we'll all be chauffeured around by AI driven vehicles...

Or have AI write these CEO reports - because I am not sure if the natural intelligence quite suffices for the task.

AoD

 

[81-717]

Depends upon the "programming", if they give priority to the 200+ onboard streetcars or the zero people inside an AI vehicle.

Or have AI write these CEO reports - because I am not sure if the natural intelligence quite suffices for the task.

AoD

Or maybe upgrade the subway & the OL to an AI signaling system instead of ATC.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Or maybe upgrade the subway & the OL to an AI signaling system instead of ATC.

If they used GPS properly, AI would "know" that bus "B" is 30 seconds behind bus "A" and slow down bus "B" to avoid bunching. Or adjust the traffic signals to give bus "A" priority with a longer green light to speed "A" up.

 

[duffo]

If they used GPS properly, AI would "know" that bus "B" is 30 seconds behind bus "A" and slow down bus "B" to avoid bunching. Or adjust the traffic signals to give bus "A" priority with a longer green light to speed "A" up.

You don't need AI to do this, it could be a fairly simple algorithm using the existing "Vision" CAD/AVL system

 

[turbanplanner]

From what I can see, apparently the number of these incidents reported went from:
110 in 2018 (cbc.ca),
then to "closer to 600" in 2022 (Toronto Star),
then "In 2024 ... alone, 724 “unauthorized track-level” incidents occurred".

I have trouble believing it's always a new person doing this for the first time, when it's happening this often. It just seems as though maybe the authorities prefer to ignore the situation and no one wants to take the responsibility for their inaction -- not just for the TTC delays, but also the mentally unsound individuals endangering themselves.
If they don't bother keeping track of individual offenders, how would they know?

Safety first!