TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[Monarch Butterfly]

Tomorrow morning is going to be a s***show at Warden.

As it stands now, buses are making a left turn from Warden into the Bus Platforms. There is no controlled intersection, just a turning lane.

It was not so bad today but in the middle of the rush hour with full blown traffic, I can see a myriad of issues with buses waiting to make the turn.

What I don't understand is why a traffic light was never put in at the entrance to the bus platforms to assist with access for buses. I have a feeling that when they see how much of a mess things become they will put in a temporary light.

Does the TTC have to "pay" Toronto Transportation Services for any traffic signals that they request? If it has to come out of the TTC operating budget, they have other "priorities" like the subway "go slow zones"..

 

[Richard White]

Does the TTC have to "pay" Toronto Transportation Services for any traffic signals that they request? If it has to come out of the TTC operating budget, they have other "priorities" like the subway "go slow zones"..

Walter,

SOGR Repair work does need to be done but you cannot cripple a fair chunk of the Scarborough and East York bus network taking the moral high ground.

 

[drum118]

Jan 4
I did a final video of the terminal as to what it looked like on its final night of operation and planning on doing one for the daylight with the new terminal open for the outside only..

Don't know when the terminal official close, but would after the last train and bus departed and before the subway open. Fences or barriers went up most likely at the stair to the bus concourse or doors locked, but a guess on my part.

Riders will not know what hit them until they get off the bus at the new terminal as well those getting off the subway train. Hope TTC has a lot of staff on site directing riders where and how to get to the buses or the subway.

Since the new temporary terminal is now outside the pay area, riders will have to do a double tap to use the bus or the subway and raise a question related to the 2 hour transfer time. Depending on riders travel time from various parts of the city, some riders could be near max time when they hit the bus concourse and ran out of time while waiting for the bus that had no impact on them. Now having to wait outside and a longer time to get to their bus stop, they will have to do more time management or end up paying an extra fare.

Don't know if anyone has done a flyover what the station look like before the south parking lot was close, but one should be done now before the terminal comes down for history as to what it look like down the road.

50% fast

 

[drum118]

So just got back from this morning's flying. Not great conditions and had to scrub a number of planned flights but did manage to get to Islington station. I'll post more in the Islington station thread at some point but here is one shot for now.
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Thanks Tim as this is the only way we can see what is going on until it hits grade. The hole is a lot smaller that what it says from the street. I have before phots for the area, but impossible to do it today.

Don't if anyone has done a flyover for the station before construction started as a before view of what existed for the whole area before the whole area is redeveloped for history.

 

[DSCToronto]

Does the TTC have to "pay" Toronto Transportation Services for any traffic signals that they request? If it has to come out of the TTC operating budget, they have other "priorities" like the subway "go slow zones"..

As far as I know Transportation pays but all requests for signals need Council or Community Council approval and this is often not given if Transportation objects. TTC can certainly not just ask Transportation for a new signal.

 

[T3G]

Since the new temporary terminal is now outside the pay area, riders will have to do a double tap to use the bus or the subway and raise a question related to the 2 hour transfer time. Depending on riders travel time from various parts of the city, some riders could be near max time when they hit the bus concourse and ran out of time while waiting for the bus that had no impact on them. Now having to wait outside and a longer time to get to their bus stop, they will have to do more time management or end up paying an extra fare.

Just like quite a lot of people already using the temporary terminal at Kennedy, then.

 

[Tim MacDonald]

Thanks Tim as this is the only way we can see what is going on until it hits grade. The hole is a lot smaller that what it says from the street. I have before phots for the area, but impossible to do it today.

Don't if anyone has done a flyover for the station before construction started as a before view of what existed for the whole area before the whole area is redeveloped for history.

I've been flying it since 2021 so lots of historical photos in my archive.

 

[evandyk]

Just spent most of the last two weeks in Paris, and man is it depressing to come back to the TTC.

 

[Northern Light]

Just spent most of the last two weeks in Paris, and man is it depressing to come back to the TTC.

Perhaps you could elaborate on what particular differences you enjoyed about your Paris experience and find lacking here.

 

[81-717]

Just spent most of the last two weeks in Paris, and man is it depressing to come back to the TTC.

I feel the same about Stockholm and Oslo, and while I'd never feel that way about Paris, I definitely agree coming back to the TTC afterwards is depressing enough to wanna boycott TTC fanning entirely.

 

[evandyk]

Perhaps you could elaborate on what particular differences you enjoyed about your Paris experience and find lacking here.

That would take a while! 14 lines criscrossing an area much smaller than the City of Toronto. Frequent service on all of them, even on weekends. Regional trains that come every 8 minutes.

Everything was spotless and shiny, no doubt thanks to the Olympics. Nobody sleeping, smoking or doing drugs on trains. (There were no homeless people anywhere in the city, also no doubt due to the Olympics.)

The kid got his first ride on a high speed train, from Paris to Lyon, and loved it.

 

[Richard White]

As far as I know Transportation pays but all requests for signals need Council or Community Council approval and this is often not given if Transportation objects. TTC can certainly not just ask Transportation for a new signal.

They did put a temporary one in at Eglinton Station where the bus drop off area is so it is a possibility.

Having said that, I can see one being put in shortly.

 

[evandyk]

I feel the same about Stockholm and Oslo, and while I'd never feel that way about Paris, I definitely agree coming back to the TTC afterwards is depressing enough to wanna boycott TTC fanning entirely.

In previous trips to Paris I haven't really depended on transit because we'd walk almost everywhere, but that's more challenging with a five year old. Everything just worked.

 

[Northern Light]

I feel the same about Stockholm and Oslo, and while I'd never feel that way about Paris, I definitely agree coming back to the TTC afterwards is depressing enough to wanna boycott TTC fanning entirely.

As I noted above in response to another comment; to help keep this tangent related to the TTC, it would be useful if you could tie your thoughts to specifics.

I can think of many things I like about the systems mentioned, and some others I'm less keen on; but we can't make the TTC any better on generalities.

 

[T3G]

Personally, my single biggest bug bear with the TTC is their atrocious line management. On paper, many services that the TTC runs should be very good, but the issues with line management must run deep in the institutional blood, because it's been on going for decades - surely there must have been some personnel turn over in the last 20 years - and I haven't seen it in such a large capacity in any other city I've been to. Prague's trams (apart from not being slowed down by ridiculous safety rules like they are here) run in a mix of private ROWs, mixed traffic, and pedestrian only zones, and I've never experienced anything like this there.

Also would like to see:

-better communication vis a vis delays
-all door boarding, everywhere, at all times
-for the drivers to be taught finally that they're not the stars of John Wick and to stop yelling at transit photographers