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I would go after regulations to ensure adequate safety equipment is installed that prevents this situation (if not already in place for newer vehicles)... I can't think of why a vehicle should be able to drive at speed with bin up.

Warning lights and stickers in the cab do not prevent error... Examples of what I believe this truck has inside to prevent (unsure what, if any, additional safety equipment is installed by GFL):
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From the manual, the console panel would be red, but not prevent driving afaik:
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Streetcar power network repairs underway at King and Spadina

Dec. 17, 2024

TTC crews are assessing damage caused to the streetcar overhead power network at King St. W. and Spadina Ave. Clean-up efforts are underway after a garbage truck contacted live wires that supply power to TTC streetcars. The accident occurred around 8 a.m. today during the morning rush.

Once the site is cleared of all down wires and is deemed safe, TTC engineers will begin repairing salvageable wires, installing and configuring new wires, and ensuring breakers and other power systems are operational before testing the system for safe operations.

Although the timeline for restoring service remains uncertain, the process is expected to be lengthy, and streetcar diversions are likely to persist throughout the day.

Streetcar service diversions are in place on several routes, including the 501 Queen, 504 King, 508 Lake Shore, 510 Spadina, and 511 Bathurst. Buses are supplementing service where possible.

Customers are encouraged to check www.ttc.ca or follow @TTCNotices on X for the latest information about diversion routes and alternative transit options.
 
Coolibop said:
I would go after regulations to ensure adequate safety equipment is installed that prevents this situation (if not already in place for newer vehicles)... I can't think of why a vehicle should be able to drive at speed with bin up.

Warning lights and stickers in the cab do not prevent error... Examples of what I believe this truck has inside to prevent (unsure what, if any, additional safety equipment is installed by GFL):
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From the manual, the console panel would be red, but not prevent driving afaik:
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Wait 10 years to change regulations. No one enforces.

Same shizz, different day.
 
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That's is one hell of a detour. Why not go east to York and Adelaide? Is it because they had to shut off the power at Queen/Spadina too?
 
Jonny5 said:
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That's is one hell of a detour. Why not go east to York and Adelaide? Is it because they had to shut off the power at Queen/Spadina too?
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To get to McCaul, the 504 would already have had to pass through Spadina, assuming the description given is in order of streets utilized. It doesn't actually say where the 504 returns to King.
 
Northern Light said:
To get to McCaul, the 504 would already have had to pass through Spadina, assuming the description given is in order of streets utilized. It doesn't actually say where the 504 returns to King.
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They are likely self Insured. The only thing that would hurt them is loosing their license to operate In the city.
I was once at the collision reporting center and a tow truck driver asked the officer if he can move the vehicle by interrupting him and cutting in line.

The officer asked him to bring all of his insurance and registration and suspended him on the spot. A few days later I saw the same driver in a truck from another company doing a towing job.

So basically there are no consequences. Even if you are suspended you can go work at another company tomorrow.

The guy who did this may have his license suspended but could get a job at another company next week.
 
Bordercollie said:
They are likely self Insured. The only thing that would hurt them is loosing their license to operate In the city.
I was once at the collision reporting center and a tow truck driver asked the officer if he can move the vehicle by interrupting him and cutting in line.

The officer asked him to bring all of his insurance and registration and suspended him on the spot. A few days later I saw the same driver in a truck from another company doing a towing job.

So basically there are no consequences. Even if you are suspended you can go work at another company tomorrow.

The guy who did this may have his license suspended but could get a job at another company next week.
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How does your post relate to the quote of my post?
 
max said:
This is right on.

Sadly, don't see just punishing the drivers as something that will solve any of this. As noted above the Skyway guy got jail time, presumably he isn't employable in the industry, and none of this is enough of a deterrent.

It's time we recognized that it's 2024 and that somebody can make a computer that will either immobile or speed limit trucks when their bins/forks/protrusions are raised. Having an alarm isn't enough, and they get tampered with and we get situations like this. The regulator (or the insurance industry) needs to push trucking towards solving this issue once and for all.
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Yes, punishing the drivers won't fix the problem. GFL will just replace the driver with another poorly paid and trained driver. GFL is a large American/candian profits over people waste disposal company. They are like the Amazon of garbage truck industry. Government should be handing huge hefty fines when crap like this happens. The founder is a billionaire, who low balls all his contracts, put's his competition like small local independent companies out of business.
 
Jonny5 said:
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That's is one hell of a detour. Why not go east to York and Adelaide? Is it because they had to shut off the power at Queen/Spadina too?
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The way I am reading that is, North of Dufferin, and the east on Queen. I don't understand the diversion up McCaul to Dundas... Why not go east along Queen to Church and then south back to King? Westbound cars could stay on King to York and then run north to Queen.
 
JSF-1 said:
The way I am reading that is, North of Dufferin, and the east on Queen. I don't understand the diversion up McCaul to Dundas... Why not go east along Queen to Church and then south back to King? Westbound cars could stay on King to York and then run north to Queen.
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Queen is closed east of Bay for the Ontario Line construction.
 
Northern Light said:
Queen is closed east of Bay for the Ontario Line construction.
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Oh yea I forgot, my apologies. Still on the topic of were the 504 rejoins King Street, even on Dundas I would assume it would have to be south on Church Street. It's either that or Parliament.
 
JSF-1 said:
Oh yea I forgot, my apologies. Still on the topic of were the 504 rejoins King Street, even on Dundas I would assume it would have to be south on Church Street. It's either that or Parliament.
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Maybe they can't use the new tracks on York/Adelaide/Richmond because it would cause huge congestion at the turn points? Whenever the 501 and 504 have to use the same intersection to turn, it's chaos because of the number of cars running.
 
max said:
It's time we recognized that it's 2024 and that somebody can make a computer that will either immobile or speed limit trucks when their bins/forks/protrusions are raised.
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If a computer can prevent a TR from driving with an open door, I see no reason why it can't prevent a truck driving with a raised bed either.
 
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