TTC: Other Items (catch all)

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Depends on the criteria. In terms of reliability and scheduling granularity, Metrolinx are miles ahead.

To compare TTC with ML is apples vs oranges. Yes, both are transit agencies but one has transit routes 100% on city streets with frequent stops and the other has bus routes primarily on inter-city roads with few stops.

 

[nfitz]

To compare TTC with ML is apples vs oranges. Yes, both are transit agencies but one has transit routes 100% on city streets with frequent stops and the other has bus routes primarily on inter-city roads with few stops.

Which doesn't change scheduling granularity. Nor does it change systemic prioritizing of schedule adherence.

 

[evandyk]

They haven't changed the frequency recently, but it's been listed as 8 minutes south on Broadview b after 7:15 AM and before 10AM and 10 minutes after for a while (it used to be 2 to 4 minutes with the old cars).

However, looking at the data at Transee, I'm surprised to see there's a change. There were some extra cars scheduled during the King/Shaw diversion, but as of October 6, there's 3 less cars scheduled between 8 AM and 9 AM. On the other hand, there seems to be more missing cars before October 6 - perhaps it's just more regular now?

There's certainly been a schedule change; perhaps it's simply more predictable now.

I have virtually never waited 8 minutes for a Broadview car. With daily use for years. Now it’s four days in a row.

25 minutes for a Distillery car in the middle of the day?

 

[Amare]

I have virtually never waited 8 minutes for a Broadview car. With daily use for years. Now it’s four days in a row.

25 minutes for a Distillery car in the middle of the day?
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Service is certainly getting to the point where it's an absolute abysmal mess on certain routes for no ryhme or reason whatsoever asides from the TTC's own incompetence and inability to line manage.

There have been multiple times where I've waited 10 mins for a Yonge/University Line train from Union Station during the midday.

And if you think i'm kidding here's a photo from a couple days where I had this experience on the Bloor-Danforth line:

 

[Amare]

On a separate note, it looks like it's going to be a busy weekend for myself. There's another survey out, this one for a new TTC wayfinding standard:

TTC developing a new Wayfinding Strategy to help enhance customer experience

www.ttc.ca

Maybe we can finally get rid of some of the uninformative signage that doesnt even tell an individual if one is doing east/west and north/south on the subway system.

 

[81-717]

There have been multiple times where I've waited 10 mins for a Yonge/University Line train from Union Station during the midday.

And if you think i'm kidding here's a photo from a couple days where I had this experience on the Bloor-Danforth line:

Impossible, this could never happen now that all subway cars have extra-wide doors

 

[drum118]

Oct 31
Had to wait for 25 minutes for a westbound 504A at Yonge today at 5:30 pm and watched a 501, 503, 508 and 2 504B go by me, it wasn't much better going eastbound.

By the looks of thing, the work on the Kipling tunnel is almost done with backfilling and compacting taking place before pouring the new sidewalk area. The curb for the loop is now in place. Could be open in mid-late November than the plan December date.

If TTC and the city remove the reattaining wall and sidewalk from the Kipling Station Condo sit to where the wide sidewalk is now, they can widen the sidewalk to match the new one that will be built that will be built by Kipling Station Condo. This will allow better pedestrians flow compared to the narrow sidewalk and retraining wall that used to be there.

Waiting for a Kipling subway train at Dundas, an empty train blew through the station and the next train in 6 minute.

 

[Richard White]

Had to wait for 25 minutes for a westbound 504A at Yonge today at 5:30 pm and watched a 501, 503, 508 and 2 504B go by me, it wasn't much better going eastbound

I was on a 540A at Queen/Broadview at 5:10 PM heading to Broadview Station.

There were 4 cars backed up heading westbound at the Queen/Broadview intersection.

At 4:45 I waited at least 10 minutes for a streetcar.

From what I understand there was an incident at Queen and Broadview.

 

[drum118]

No 512 using St Clair W station that was supposed to start on Sunday.

October 31, 2024

Starting tomorrow night, Nov. 1, at 11 p.m., buses will replace streetcars along the entire 512 St Clair route for at least two weeks as the TTC completes upgrades to St Clair West Station terminal - nearly two months early.

The replacement will also give Toronto Water and the City time to complete emergency repairs to a sinkhole in the area of St. Clair and Avenue Road that forced a partial bus replacement last week.

The temporary removal of streetcar service from Nov. 1 (11 p.m.) to Nov. 14 (5 a.m.) accommodates the final phase of construction within the station and the loop. This final phase of work could not be done when streetcar service was removed earlier this year as that would have prolonged the full removal of streetcar service.

The 512 St Clair is usually serviced by eight to 10 streetcars depending on time of day. During this replacement, 15-30 buses will run to meet demand.

Although the work area is limited, the TTC opted for full bus replacement to minimize transfers for customers traveling longer distances.

Crews will be working on overhead track and related structures. Crews will also rehabilitate the streetcar shelter at St. Clair West at Spadina. This work is expected to begin on Nov. 4 and will last approximately one week.

The underground loop will reopen to streetcars on Nov. 14 at 5 a.m. Buses on the 33 Forest Hill, 90 Vaughan, and 126 Christie are scheduled to return on the morning of Nov. 17. Work at the loop was originally predicted to take until December to complete.

The TTC reminds customers that unforeseen issues arising during construction could impact these dates.

For more on the 512 service changes, visit https://www.ttc.ca/routes-and-schedules/512/0

 

[T3G]

Maybe we can finally get rid of some of the uninformative signage that doesnt even tell an individual if one is doing east/west and north/south on the subway system.

Didn't they implement this "new and improved" signage only a couple of years back?

 

[max]

The temporary removal of streetcar service from Nov. 1 (11 p.m.) to Nov. 14 (5 a.m.) accommodates the final phase of construction within the station and the loop. This final phase of work could not be done when streetcar service was removed earlier this year as that would have prolonged the full removal of streetcar service

Can anyone explain how the bus replacement helps them speed up construction when no streetcars were entering the tunnel anyway due to the sinkhole? All I can figure is they've added the streetcar operators to the construction crew and the additional labour will make it faster

But seriously, I hate the ridiculous ultra positive PR spin every message has to have, and wish they'd be honest with us.

 

[Amare]

Didn't they implement this "new and improved" signage only a couple of years back?

They did, and as a part of that they removed directional references in a lot of signage in favor of "destination signage" (ie: 1- Vaughan via Union).

 

[Northern Light]

Didn't they implement this "new and improved" signage only a couple of years back?

They did, and as a part of that they removed directional references in a lot of signage in favor of "destination signage" (ie: 1- Vaughan via Union).

I believe this is triggered by the upcoming requirement for signage and some announcements to be bilingual. Metrolinx being the owner of the Crosstown and of Finch West as well as the O/L will put it under the same rules as GO.

The TTC is then faced with trying to have its signage and announcements fit the new protocols.

 

[Amare]

I believe this is triggered by the upcoming requirement for signage and some announcements to be bilingual. Metrolinx being the owner of the Crosstown and of Finch West as well as the O/L will put it under the same rules as GO.

The TTC is then faced with trying to have its signage and announcements fit the new protocols.

Which is funny and unfortunate because Metrolinx seems bent on confusing everyone in general with their local station naming schemes by having multiple stations named after each other (ie: Eglinton- Hurontario LRT, Eglinton GO, Eglinton- Yonge Line). Not to mention the corporate station naming sponsorship mess instituted by the province.

 

[T3G]

They did, and as a part of that they removed directional references in a lot of signage in favor of "destination signage" (ie: 1- Vaughan via Union).

I still have no idea what they were huffing when they did that. Heaven forbid people are given a variety of tools to help them understand the world around them!