Monarch Butterfly
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Because of the priority given to public transit in Toronto (low priority)...
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TTC: Other Items (catch all)
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Northern Light
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This is an interesting tender from the TTC:
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
"Not weather, there's a van perched on the tracks."
There's this new invention called a "tow truck". Instead of calling a bus, call a tow truck to move it.
Needs to be fined $100 for each and every passenger and operator on board each and every streetcar that the auto is blocking.
allengeorge
Senior Member
I like NYC’s solution of mounting cameras on buses and automatically fining people in the bus lane. 14th St doesn’t have separation, but the wide publicity around the move and aggressive enforcement has really changed behavior. Buses really do motor down now.
I have to agree with W.K. Lis though: highly unlikely that would get instituted here, since Toronto is still quite car-centric.
Richard White
Senior Member
Not just that Toronto is car centric, most people do not know how to drive properly. It mystifies me how people manage to get a license sometimes.
As the saying goes, common sense is not so common and it shows when people drive.
Richard White
Senior Member
Earlier today, someone with a weapon was involved in an altercation with Toronto Police at High Park.
From what I understand, TPS drew their weapons but did not discharge them. SIU DOES NOT appear to be involved at the time of writing.
This will impact your commute this evening.
From what I understand, TPS drew their weapons but did not discharge them. SIU DOES NOT appear to be involved at the time of writing.
This will impact your commute this evening.
dusk
Active Member
Two women stabbed. One has passed away.
Bring back institutions.
That vast majority are being held hostage by the unhinged minority. It’s insanity for those taking public transit or otherwise live in the city.
Admiral Beez
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Woman dead, another seriously injured in High Park subway stabbings
Toronto police say one man is in custody and can’t say if the women knew the attacker.
www.thestar.com
Likely another nutter off their meds, probably already known to police as an EDP. I’m tired of the loons in this city. Time to bring back the padded cells. But we‘ve seen this path all to well before…. Found NCR, institutionalized for perhaps 24-36 months, then halfway house, then back on the street.
PL1
Senior Member
Or we could, as a society, actually pay for mental health. Perhaps it's an and. I'm sure that some people need institutional care they can not receive. But mental health care is really importantWoman dead, another seriously injured in High Park subway stabbings
Toronto police say one man is in custody and can’t say if the women knew the attacker.
Likely another nutter off their meds, probably already known to police as an EDP. I’m tired of the loons in this city. Time to bring back the padded cells. But we‘ve seen this path all to well before…. Found NCR, institutionalized for perhaps 24-36 months, then halfway house, then back on the street.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Absolutely, and mental health funding needs to include if absolutely necessary for public safety, preemptive institutionalization of the potentially dangerous insane. But not every crazed bugger stabbing, incinerating and pushing women onto the tracks on the TTC is an otherwise normal person who’s broken; some people are just bad.
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gabe
Senior Member
Another attack against women. My heart goes out to the victim's and their families of this sickening and UNNECESSARY violence. And also to those on the train who had to witness it.
This is why people drive, or avoid taking the TTC altogether. i said this just the other day on this very thread, the TTC needs to strengthen security!!!
This is why people drive, or avoid taking the TTC altogether. i said this just the other day on this very thread, the TTC needs to strengthen security!!!
T3G
Senior Member
I find the focus on strengthening TTC security to be largely missing the forest for the trees.
What big picture good is being achieved by kicking all the violent folk off the transit system if they're still able to roam the streets afterwards? A transit system is a reflection of the city in which it runs. New York's subway was a hellhole in the 70s and 80s because New York itself was a crime ridden cesspool. We need a top down strategy that deals with crime city-wide, otherwise you will be perfectly safe on the subway, but you'll be whacked over the head when you step outside.
What big picture good is being achieved by kicking all the violent folk off the transit system if they're still able to roam the streets afterwards? A transit system is a reflection of the city in which it runs. New York's subway was a hellhole in the 70s and 80s because New York itself was a crime ridden cesspool. We need a top down strategy that deals with crime city-wide, otherwise you will be perfectly safe on the subway, but you'll be whacked over the head when you step outside.
nfitz
Superstar
At the same time, I'm using a TTC a lot less since the pandemic started - but at the same time I'm seeing MORE crazy on the streetcar, and especially the subway, than I used to. I mean there was always some crazy (by which I mean clearly off their meds, rather than just rudeness).
Meanwhile the homeless on the street have been rising for about a decade, after having actually dropped off somewhat in the late 00s (at least anecdotally). It's quite clear we need more emergency housing, more low income housing, more income support, and more mental health capacity.
Perhaps there's a few that really need institutionalization. But much of this could be fixed by dealing with the root causes. And even if all I suggest doesn't help a particular individual never get to the stage they are stabbing people; then at least it would be easier to spot those that might really further attention.
Undead
Senior Member
It's end of empire times, boys. Enjoy it while it lasts.