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Who says 10 years for line 2? They're going to install block signals on the new part then move the system over. It'll take decades to get it run to every station since the TTC doesn't seem to support doing PSD's before the entire line is ready.
They'll work on it with the MINIMUM number of workers. Could be faster if they use more workers, but that would mean more money needed. Since public transit is still a low priority, spending money on safety is also a low priority.
 
They'll work on it with the MINIMUM number of workers. Could be faster if they use more workers, but that would mean more money needed. Since public transit is still a low priority, spending money on safety is also a low priority.
lol we are spending like $40 billion on transit in the a 10 year period? I think the big issue is everything in this country only gets money if it's a ribbon cutting ceremony.
 
It is important to note that Platform Edge Doors have benefits that extend well beyond preventing the odd 'intentional' push/crime.

They can serve to significantly reduce litter/debris on the tracks which is a frequent cause of smoke/fire.

They can reduce instances of people dropping something on the tracks accidentally (keys/wallet/phone) and then either choosing to go down to the tracks (illegally) to fetch it themselves or having to have TTC staff do so.

They can eliminate unintentional falls to the tracks (see people racing down the yellow strip at the times.)

They can eliminate one form of suicide, something that can't always be predicted by outward behavior prior to it happening.

There is much to recommend their installation.
I don't disagree with any of these points, I'm just commenting that when the discussion is about safety against someone being pushed, it would be much more helpful to actually ensure there aren't people around who can push another into the trackway.
 
TTC's proposed 2023 budget invests in safety and cleanliness, adjusts service to meet new ridership patterns

Wednesday, Jan. 4, 2023

The TTC today released its proposed 2023 operating budget - one that would see millions of new dollars invested in system safety and cleanliness while delivering service based on new, post-pandemic ridership patterns.

The budget also recommends a 10-cent fare increase on single cash and PRESTO rides while freezing fares for seniors, Fair Pass program users and those with PRESTO monthly and annual passes. Revenue from this fare increase, in addition to the City’s proposed subsidy to the TTC of $958.7 million - a $53 million increase from 2022 - will go towards a number of measures to ensure the transit system is reliable, safe and accessible for all Torontonians.

The $2.38 billion combined operating budgets for both conventional and Wheel-Trans services represents a 4.2 per cent increase over the approved 2022 budget (exclusive of COVID costs) and includes:
• More than $4 million for safety, security and cleanliness. This includes hiring 10 additional Streets to Homes outreach workers, adding 25 new Transit Special Constable positions and filling 25 vacant positions, and introducing enhanced daily streetcar cleaning.
• Nearly $3 million dedicate to service improvements in routes serving Neighbourhood Improvement Areas and expansion of the Fair Pass Program to an additional 50,000 lower income Torontonians.
• Almost $43 million to cover the opening of Line 5 Eglinton-Crosstown and Line 6 Finch West, and the bus replacement of Line 3 Scarborough RT.
• A commitment to deliver 91 per cent of pre-pandemic service levels even as ridership is predicted to reach just 75 per cent of pre-pandemic norms at the end of the year.

“This proposed budget reflects the needs of residents, of TTC workers, and of the transit system itself,” said TTC Chair Jon Burnside. “I’m confident that with these investments and focused improvement of services, we are setting up our transit system to be safer, more reliable, and more accessible for all. I want to thank TTC staff for their hard work to prepare this budget and look forward to discussing it at our Board meeting next week.”

“Investing in our transit system is one of my top priorities for the next four years,” said Mayor John Tory. “While this is a challenging year for the city, we are investing to keep transit safe, improve service, and support seniors and low-income residents. Protecting nuts and bolts services residents rely on and expect us to deliver is my priority throughout the 2023 budget.”

“As we come out of the pandemic and our ridership patterns evolve, the TTC is positioning itself to keep Toronto moving and to be there for those who need us most,” said TTC CEO Rick Leary. “This proposal balances our need to deliver safe service while contending with lower revenues and increased operating costs associated with inflation and new transit lines.”

This year’s share of the $12.5 billion 2023-2032 capital budget plan is approximately $1.34 billion, comprising $800 million for infrastructure and state of good repair projects, $455 million for vehicle purchases and overhauls and $88 million for transit expansion-related work.

The capital budget report also updates both the TTC’s 15-year, $38 billion Capital Investment Plan (CIP) and Real Estate Investment Plan, a 15-year strategic roadmap that supports the CIP.

Highlights of the TTC’s 2022-2031 Capital Budget and Plan include:
• Funding for essential safety and state of good repair capital work to ensure safety and reliability of our system
• Funding to meet legislative requirements related to full accessibility of the system by 2025
• Advancing delivery of the fleet procurement strategy for the procurement of 60 Streetcars, hundreds of hybrid and battery-electric buses and 70 Wheel-Trans vehicles.
• Continuing work on three major capacity improvement projects (Bloor-Yonge, Line 1 and Line 2)

The TTC Board will hold its meeting regarding the 2022 Operating and Capital Budgets on Mon., Jan. 9, 2023. The meeting will begin at 10 a.m. and will be livestreamed on the Official TTC YouTube Channel.

The public can register to make deputations by submitting a request to commissionservices@ttc.ca. The deadline to register is noon on Friday, January 6.

Details of the meeting are as follows:
Date: Mon., Jan. 9, 2023.
Time: 10 a.m.
Location: Committee Room 1, Toronto City Hall

Official TTC YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialTTCchannel

View the agenda at https://www.ttc.ca/public-meetings/board/2023/Board-Meeting-Jan-9?tab=0
 
From the updated TOInView info here are the TTC track projects listed for 2023 and 2024

2023

QUEEN ST E
From: PARLIAMENT ST To: RIVER ST

BROADVIEW AVE
From: DANFORTH AVE To: GERRARD ST E

KING ST W
From: CLOSE AVE To: STRACHAN AVE

ADELAIDE ST W
From: CHARLOTTE ST To: YONGE ST

ADELAIDE ST E
From: YONGE ST To: VICTORIA ST

WELLINGTON ST E
From: YONGE ST To: CHURCH ST

2024

QUEEN ST W
From: O'HARA AVE To: TRILLER AVE

BATHURST ST
From: QUEEN ST W To: FRONT ST W

COLLEGE ST
From: BAY ST To: YONGE ST

QUEEN ST E
From: DAVIES AVE To: CARLAW AVE
 
I want to see Toronto invest in improving transit services. Less bunching, "real" transit signal priority, signal lights at subway (and LRT) bus/streetcar egress and ingress, better wayfaring displays, double-point or improved streetcar switches (no stopping), accurate "next vehicle" info apps, and platform screen doors (sooner than later).
 
From the TTC 15-Year Capital Investment Plan
"In the Capital Variance Report for the Nine months Ended September 30, 2022, the 2022 Capital Budget was reduced by $185.2 million due to the delayed delivery schedule of the bus procurement and deferred to 2023 and the 10-year Capital Budget and Plan was reduced by $42.688 million net to reflect the revised project costs for the 204 LRVs and property acquisition of the 10th garage at 800 Kipling."

Looks like plans are underway for the acquisition of a 10th garage in Etobicoke. It is the site of a Purolator distribution centre today.
 
From the updated TOInView info here are the TTC track projects listed for 2023 and 2024

2023

QUEEN ST E
From: PARLIAMENT ST To: RIVER ST

BROADVIEW AVE
From: DANFORTH AVE To: GERRARD ST E

KING ST W
From: CLOSE AVE To: STRACHAN AVE

ADELAIDE ST W
From: CHARLOTTE ST To: YONGE ST

ADELAIDE ST E
From: YONGE ST To: VICTORIA ST

WELLINGTON ST E
From: YONGE ST To: CHURCH ST

2024

QUEEN ST W
From: O'HARA AVE To: TRILLER AVE

BATHURST ST
From: QUEEN ST W To: FRONT ST W

COLLEGE ST
From: BAY ST To: YONGE ST

QUEEN ST E
From: DAVIES AVE To: CARLAW AVE
At this point they might as well just bustitute the 501 until 2040, because this is just getting comical.

Crews were replacing around a 200 metre stretch of track on Queen around Sorauren just a few months ago, so let's hope they remember that they dont have to replace those tracks. Knowing what happens in this city, I wouldnt be surprised if they "accidentally" replace those.
 
From the TTC 15-Year Capital Investment Plan
"In the Capital Variance Report for the Nine months Ended September 30, 2022, the 2022 Capital Budget was reduced by $185.2 million due to the delayed delivery schedule of the bus procurement and deferred to 2023 and the 10-year Capital Budget and Plan was reduced by $42.688 million net to reflect the revised project costs for the 204 LRVs and property acquisition of the 10th garage at 800 Kipling."

Looks like plans are underway for the acquisition of a 10th garage in Etobicoke. It is the site of a Purolator distribution centre today.

This is correct, reported elsewhere. at UT, though I can't remember where, off hand, LOL
 
From the updated TOInView info here are the TTC track projects listed for 2023 and 2024

2023

QUEEN ST E
From: PARLIAMENT ST To: RIVER ST

BROADVIEW AVE
From: DANFORTH AVE To: GERRARD ST E

KING ST W
From: CLOSE AVE To: STRACHAN AVE

Fine

ADELAIDE ST W
From: CHARLOTTE ST To: YONGE ST

ADELAIDE ST E
From: YONGE ST To: VICTORIA ST

WELLINGTON ST E
From: YONGE ST To: CHURCH ST

Ontario Line

2024

QUEEN ST
From: O'HARA AVE To: TRILLER AVEQUEEN ST E
From: DAVIES AVE To: CARLAW AVE

Ummm, opposite ends of the Queen/501, relatively short distances, very inefficent use of resources and poor scheduling.

BATHURST ST
From: QUEEN ST W To: FRONT ST W

They need to give the the Bathurst Car its own ROW here, there's enough room; that this on the calendar for 2024 and I don't remember any process or discussion around it concerns me that this will be an opportunity squandered.

I hope to be proven wrong.

COLLEGE ST
From: BAY ST To: YONGE ST

Is this not in the current project on College? If not, that's ridiculous.
 
This is also entirely incorrect to the point of being absurd. Why do you insist on making such extreme statements which you either know are untrue or are too ill-informed to be posting comments on?

Please stop.

We can have respectful disagreements on preferences, we cannot really disagree on facts for which evidence is available. Too many of your comments in too many threads are inconsistent with the facts.
Hey look! Another 2 years of closures for the 501 route.
 
Is this not in the current project on College? If not, that's ridiculous.
The recent projects were College west of Bay, and Carlton/Church.

TTC has had Yonge dug up from College to near Gerrard since 2020; it looks like the new streetcar track is timed to be done at the completion of that project. Presumably this is by choice.

At a minimum, closing College/Carlton would impact deliveries to the subway station construction. And perhaps there's a phase of the subway work that may interfere with College.

Either way, it's one block with no special trackwork. It won't close it for long.
 

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