News   Apr 07, 2020
 379     0 
News   Apr 07, 2020
 2K     1 
News   Apr 07, 2020
 1K     4 

TTC: Other Items (catch all)

Richard White

Senior Member
Member Bio
Joined
Dec 7, 2015
Messages
2,322
Reaction score
1,192
Location
Scarborough, Ontario
2) Strongly consider installing more cross-overs on Line 2, the distance on Line 1 (Yonge side) is fairly close to every second station, Line 2 has large gaps, Woodbine to west of Chester; Chester to St. George, St. George to east of Keele. Adding one intermediate location to each of those gaps would do wonders, cutting down the number of buses required and walking distances.
A nice idea but not a practical one. There are barriers to doing so including structural, power supply, not to mention mechanical. The gaps between crossovers were never designed for crossovers and you cannot remove pillars to build a crossover. Those likely support the tunnel structure above and it would be a very expensive endeavor to install crossovers.
 

Northern Light

Senior Member
Member Bio
Joined
May 20, 2007
Messages
5,609
Reaction score
5,648
Location
Toronto/EY
A nice idea but not a practical one. There are barriers to doing so including structural, power supply, not to mention mechanical. The gaps between crossovers were never designed for crossovers and you cannot remove pillars to build a crossover. Those likely support the tunnel structure above and it would be a very expensive endeavor to install crossovers.
The pillars can almost certainly be removed and replaced by a beam and other structural support columns.

Whether that is a reasonable expense really depends on the number.

I'm unfamiliar with any similar project and really couldn't hazard a guess, others here may have a better idea.

Given the benefits, I think an expense up to several (single-digit) millions would be reasonable, much more would be very hard to justify.
 

Richard White

Senior Member
Member Bio
Joined
Dec 7, 2015
Messages
2,322
Reaction score
1,192
Location
Scarborough, Ontario
The pillars can almost certainly be removed and replaced by a beam and other structural support columns.
Think of it like removing a structural support column in your home. You can do that and redistribute the weight but the costs are insane. Crossovers need to be clear of beams as much as possible,. Also, given the existing space in the tunnels you would need crossovers similar to Woodbine or VP that are not really built these days.

The reason Woodbine and Keele never made for effective termini were because they were side platforms. To avoid confusion you could only use one platform without proper signage to indicate which platform the train is arriving on next. Side Platform terminals are not good for turnbacks.
 

Richard White

Senior Member
Member Bio
Joined
Dec 7, 2015
Messages
2,322
Reaction score
1,192
Location
Scarborough, Ontario

TheTigerMaster

Superstar
Member Bio
Joined
Feb 3, 2012
Messages
12,616
Reaction score
4,917
Location
Best Toronto
Andy Byford has resigned from the MTA. Brad Ross, now the City‘s Chief Communications Officer, appears to tease that Andy might be coming back.

Lol, after they begged him to stay too. after his first attempted resignation.

Can't say I'm surprised. The political structure of NYC's transportation network, with the NY State government effectively running the system, while also refusing to accept responsibility for capital improvements, makes it damn near impossible to accomplish any meaningful improvements.
 

robmausser

Senior Member
Member Bio
Joined
Dec 16, 2013
Messages
2,536
Reaction score
2,637
Lol, after they begged him to stay too. after his first attempted resignation.

Can't say I'm surprised. The political structure of NYC's transportation network, with the NY State government effectively running the system, while also refusing to accept responsibility for capital improvements, makes it damn near impossible to accomplish any meaningful improvements.
People think the TTC is bad here. And while the New York system is huge in comparison (but the city is 13 million people so not really fair comparison) the system is a F$*%*ing mess. We complain about things like the shutdown yesterday of Line 2. People in New York dont even complain, its just an accepted part of their lives.

And it won't get better. It will slowly and slightly, but there will never be a large improvement due to the massive size of the system, the complete state of disrepair its in, the cost it would take to fully modernize it, and the unwillingness of American culture and politics to change it. Its a lost cause.
 

AlvinofDiaspar

Moderator
Member Bio
Joined
Apr 22, 2007
Messages
27,282
Reaction score
15,114
Location
Toronto
I'm not holding out hope but I'd give my first, second and third born along with sacrificing animals and virgins to the gods in order to get Andy back
Well, forget animals and virgins - a few provincial transportation/infrastructure ministers will do. Hell, I'd even throw in the Premier if it helps.

AoD
 

Top