Megaton327
Senior Member
I think it is an assumption as it is the simplest solution. Without any fare integration at all, a single TTC fare on the TYSSE is decent, not taking into account the start/end of the TTC journey.
As least some people who live/work along the route will not require a double fare.
Its interesting to see how everyone reacts to the idea of the TTC fare being charged for the subway for example at the doors open even for one of the subway stations I thin it was at Downsview park I got into a conversation with a couple that was probably from york region as they were looking at the amp and seeing how all of the out of Toronto buses were going to terminate at the stations for the most part. They asked what the fare would be and if there would be a co fare or something like that. I told them that as of now it was going to be spertet fares a sit was tilland still is being angled between the TTC and Metrolinx about what and how the fare will work if it;s is going to be different then it is now. They were pretty shocked by it and seemed annoyed by it. Where as I look at it as When I get off of the subway in York region and transfer to one of their buses I would expect to pay their fare and not something reduced since I had gotten off of the TTC.
I'm not sure why it would seem logical to assume the entire extension would charge a single TTC fare. TTC buses that currently service this area charge the YRT fare in addition to the already-paid TTC fare if you're going north past Steeles. If you ride a TTC bus in York Region and never cross south into Steeles, you only pay the YRT fare, no TTC fare. I think the "simplest solution" would be to keep that exactly the same as it has been, and will continue to be for TTC routes that cross into York Region elsewhere e.g. Markham even after TYSSE opens. If you get on and off between VMC, 407, and Steeles West, you'll probably only pay a YRT fare, or ride free if you have a valid YRT transfer from, say, the Viva rapidway; if you ride south of Steeles only, you'll pay a TTC fare/transfer only. It's also simple to assume that if you cross steeles, you pay both a TTC and YRT fare; if you ride a Viva bus to VMC and tap on, your YRT fare is already paid so you only pay a TTC fare, which gives you a TTC transfer for use if you get off and connect to a streetcar downtown, etc.
The only real question at this point is what happens with respect to York University students. If you take GO to 407 or Downsview Park, routes which previously serviced York itself but now require a 2 stop subway ride, will it charge the full fares for that travel or will it be free/heavily discounted recognizing that the trip used to be covered solely on a single GO fare; ditto for YRT and Zum routes terminating at VMC/407/Steeles West.
I don't think there was every any question that plain and simple subway rides would charge a YRT fare north of Steeles, a TTC fare south of Steeles, and both fares if crossing Steeles, exactly as buses do.