TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[Northern Light]

Ok.....last night, I was willing to accept the once in a decade snowfall for some of the TTC's extraordinary issues.............but several hours after the snow stopped............this seems excessive:

The buses on roads w/steep hills, sure, I get it......

If they didn't quite get every rail segment finished....sure.

Why are buses running into St. George? There's a turn around at Ossington, and there to St. George there's no outdoor track.

Otherwise, it appears they've been unable to clear even one section of outdoor track. In 8+ hours?

 

[Jonny5]

Ok.....last night, I was willing to accept the once in a decade snowfall for some of the TTC's extraordinary issues.............but several hours after the snow stopped............this seems excessive:

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The buses on roads w/steep hills, sure, I get it......

If they didn't quite get ever rail segment finished....sure.

Why are buses running into St. George? There's a turn around at Ossington, and there to St. George there's no outdoor track.

Otherwise, it appears they've been unable to clear even one section of outdoor track. In 8+ hours?

My best guess is the shuttles are doing a loop covering Kipling to St. George and then continuing east to Yonge to cover the outage on Line 1 north to Eglinton, then they are turning around and going all the way back to Kipling.

Or it's a typo.

 

[urbanclient]

Or you know its because they use rubber tire trains so they are susceptible to all the same problems cars encounter in weather like this (skidding on snow and ice in the winter, hydroplaning in the rain).

The point is they intentionally made it underground to winterproof the system. Montreal choosing Parisien rubber tire tech had nothing to do with them deciding to make the whole system underground....

"Then again, Montreal get's a lot more snow. Plus the snow sticks around due to lower temps." This is me being an apologist for the TTC.

Places with harsher winters like Moscow, Helsinki, Stockholm, Harbin have much stronger winter hardening relative to their climate.
Toronto has worse winter transit reliability than colder, snowier cities, because its winter hardening is disproportionately weak relative to its climate.

Winter should be the reference condition, not a degraded mode like in Toronto. This applies to everything from the vehicles to the trackside infrastructure.

 

[smallspy]

Why are buses running into St. George? There's a turn around at Ossington, and there to St. George there's no outdoor track.

I believe that the overnight and weekend closures for the past couple of weeks have been due to work on the third track at Ossington.

The point is they intentionally made it underground to winterproof the system. Montreal choosing Parisien rubber tire tech had nothing to do with them deciding to make the whole system underground....

No - they, and specifically Drapeau, intentionally chose rubber tires in order to make the system more Parisien. That then forced the choice to keep the system entirely underground.

Dan