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TTC: Other Items (catch all)

Yesterday's budget update:


Noteworthy is the fact that the TTC appears to want to divest themselves of their artic buses, I assume the early ones from 2013-2014.

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Seems unfortunate.
 
T3G said:
Yesterday's budget update:


Noteworthy is the fact that the TTC appears to want to divest themselves of their artic buses, I assume the early ones from 2013-2014.

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Seems unfortunate.
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Not quite as low as it seems.

When you look at the first column, which is the net savings in operator hours per year as a result of the Crosstown and Finch opening, those will, effectively, be deployed as service increase elsewhere, beginning in September '26.

If you add in those numbers, on an annualized basis, which are equal to roughly a 1.2% service increase, you get an overall increase of 3.2% as experienced by riders. It just doesn't show as an increase, because those operators hours are already funded as the Eglinton and Finch buses.
 
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T3G said:
Yesterday's budget update:


Noteworthy is the fact that the TTC appears to want to divest themselves of their artic buses, I assume the early ones from 2013-2014.

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Seems unfortunate.
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I would hope this is only retirement of older models and not a full step away from artics again. They did this in the early 2000's after the Orion III's were retired only to back-track on the decision in the 2013. Even with the opening of the EC and FW LRT's there are still routes in the city that warrant use of 60's buses (e.g. Dufferin), as well if travel patterns change some routes will loose ridership, but no doubt some will gain it.
 
Northern Light said:
Kennedy Station is getting new trackside walls installed. More of the faux vitrolite, this time in grey with rust red trim.

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Disappointed. I dunno why their team is so bad at this. I don’t get why they couldn’t make the panels orange and black to better match what was there before. They messed up Kipling’s and Finch’s colour combinations too. Finch looks particularly awful.
 
APTA-2048 said:
Disappointed. I dunno why their team is so bad at this. I don’t get why they couldn’t make the panels orange and black to better match what was there before. They messed up Kipling’s and Finch’s colour combinations too. Finch looks particularly awful.
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Agreed 100%

It seems almost willfully awful.
 
JSF-1 said:
I would hope this is only retirement of older models and not a full step away from artics again. They did this in the early 2000's after the Orion III's were retired only to back-track on the decision in the 2013. Even with the opening of the EC and FW LRT's there are still routes in the city that warrant use of 60's buses (e.g. Dufferin), as well if travel patterns change some routes will loose ridership, but no doubt some will gain it.
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APTA-2048 said:
Two 2014 artics have been retired right now.
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Isn't the lifespan of Artics considered to be 12 years (which they are now)? In any case, if only 2 are retired so far (aside from accidents), it could just be a one-off, not an indication of impending mass retirement.

Northern Light said:
Kennedy Station is getting new trackside walls installed. More of the faux vitrolite, this time in grey with rust red trim.
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So basically Donlands station 2.0.
As boring as the T1 interior is, it does sort-of match Donlands station, which is sort-of nice.

T3G said:
Line 1 is bypassing Dundas both ways due to a stabbing
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Wonder if it's the same prick who was acting all aggressive at College after having caused the 12:50 pm shutdown (which I unfortunately walked in on) between Bloor & King "due to trespasser at track level". Hope the employee will be ok.
 
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81-717 said:
Isn't the lifespan of Artics considered to be 12 years (which they are now)?
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The lifespan of every transit bus built and sold in North America is designed to be 12 years, not just articulated ones.

That they last longer in Toronto (or any other city) is a feature of cost avoidance, not quality of build.

81-717 said:
In any case, if only 2 are retired so far (aside from accidents), it could just be a one-off, not an indication of impending mass retirement.
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Incorrect. These are the first two with major repairs not worth paying for. More will follow.

Dan
 
Richard White said:
In other news..

Someone finally got the memo and decided to do fare enforcement at Main Station.

Everyone coming off streetcars and buses heading to the subway had their fare checked without exception.

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Gotta love the waste of resources. Last I heard TTC doesn’t allow all door boarding on buses. Meanwhile Ford has gotten his way on banning speed cameras because they gouge motorists of money. But Ford doesn’t want disband fare enforcement and his government doesn’t want to provide funding to the TTC operating costs
 
smallspy said:
The lifespan of every transit bus built and sold in North America is designed to be 12 years, not just articulated ones.

That they last longer in Toronto (or any other city) is a feature of cost avoidance, not quality of build.
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But it used to be 18 years before? Or did the Orion Vs last 6 years beyond their design life?

Richard White said:
Everyone coming off streetcars and buses heading to the subway had their fare checked without exception.
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Why bother checking those who obviously already paid their fare (any fare enforcement should've happened for them when boarding the bus/tram) rather than those entering from the street at the turnstiles? Talk about barking at the wrong tree.
 
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