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They should just paint it grey and be done with it. Concrete walls would never clean easily. At least it doesn't have ugly patch work unlike York U.
They can paint it in a rainbow colour if they want, but there's nothing saving that station unless they clad over the concrete.
 
A friend of mine submitted a complaint to the Mayor's office about these very walls, at this very station, a few weeks back.

He forwarded me the reply he ultimately got from TTC, which defensively suggested the walls had been cleaned quite recently.

They even sent a photo to prove it (do they routinely photograph themselves doing routine work?)

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Friday, August 16, 2024 – Cleaning Crew – Warden Station

My friend replied and suggested they consider alternative cleaning techniques!
I seem to recall the TTC had a tunnel washing car at one point in the past. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me, but I remember it being named "Krystal Kleen." Maybe @smallspy can recall?

I believe the Ministry of Environment ordered the TTC to treat the waste water before allowing it down the storm drains. I also believe the (very effective, but harmful) chemicals the TTC was using were also an issue for the MoE. Hence that was the end of the tunnel washer, and the end of clean station platform walls.
 
Since the end of 2025 is round the corner as the drop dead date for accessibility requirements, what are TTC plans having doors at bus terminals to meet the requirements???
 
Since the end of 2025 is round the corner

Did you mean 2024?

The target for compliance in the AODA is January 1st, 2025.

Currently, it appears the TTC is tracking to have to have 57/70 stations accessible by the deadline, with work to wrap at Glencairn and Castle Frank before year end.

Work will not be complete at Lawrence, Summerhill, Rosedale, College, King, Museum, Spadina Greenwood, Warden, Old Mill, Islington, High Park and Christie.

as the drop dead date for accessibility requirements, what are TTC plans having doors at bus terminals to meet the requirements???

As to mitigation, the last I remember hearing of it was the September '23 report to the TTC Board:


From the above:

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It's not like stations like King, College, Lawrence, Islington are used by a lot of people. Obviously people with disabilities can just avoid those stations.
I'm assuming this is sarcasm? King and College are in the downtown Yonge stretch, and do get pretty crowded (not that I've used that stretch in months ever since I happily switched to biking whenever possible). Lawrence is at least 2 km away from any other stations, so not really an option for someone, especially a disabled person, to make their own way to some other station. Islington isn't exactly close to Kipling or Royal York either.
 
Yeah, that was sarcasm! The TTC's last ridership by station stats are from 2022 and King and College are both within the top 5 or so. Probably the two busiest non-transfer or -terminus stations other than Dundas.
 
Stores are starting to close at Warden in the Bus Bays.

This tracks with the previously noted timeline for the bus bay closures.

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Did you mean 2024?

The target for compliance in the AODA is January 1st, 2025.

Currently, it appears the TTC is tracking to have to have 57/70 stations accessible by the deadline, with work to wrap at Glencairn and Castle Frank before year end.

Work will not be complete at Lawrence, Summerhill, Rosedale, College, King, Museum, Spadina Greenwood, Warden, Old Mill, Islington, High Park and Christie.



As to mitigation, the last I remember hearing of it was the September '23 report to the TTC Board:


From the above:

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I am talking about doors to the bus platforms at bus terminals and a typo on my end. I know a number of stations will not meet the 2025 date especially Warden and Islington. Islington has a hole in the ground for the new stations with parts of the concourse block off with hording beyond where the walkway will be to the new terminal as well on the platform.
 
I am talking about doors to the bus platforms at bus terminals and a typo on my end. I know a number of stations will not meet the 2025 date especially Warden and Islington. Islington has a hole in the ground for the new stations with parts of the concourse block off with hording beyond where the walkway will be to the new terminal as well on the platform.

I believe the TTC finished putting in one or two sets of sliding doors, at every station w/the exception of Warden/Islington for obvious reasons.

I believe, you are indicating that this is required at every single bus bay? I was unaware of such a requirement. (not saying you're wrong, just not personally recalling that)
 
I believe the TTC finished putting in one or two sets of sliding doors, at every station w/the exception of Warden/Islington for obvious reasons.

I believe, you are indicating that this is required at every single bus bay? I was unaware of such a requirement. (not saying you're wrong, just not personally recalling that)
There is no such requirement for bus bay doors in the AODA standards.

Also, TTC has yet to announce this but as of last week elevators are in operation and open to the public at Glencairn Station.
 
With parking at Wilson being eliminated, I hope the new plan for the lot allows for the S-curve on the bus roadway to be eliminated. Meeting Wilson Heights at Ansford would be a more direct route for the 104 and 160/Wilson services. That curve is now just an unnecessary relic of the past.
 
TTC and ATU showcase proposed bus design at ATU Canada conference

Oct. 17, 2024

The TTC and ATU continue to collaborate with Centennial College on the Bus Design Innovation Project, improving security and providing bus operators with a healthier environment. The innovative design was most recently showcased at the ATU Canada Conference 2024 in September. Transit stakeholders provided feedback on the design, which will be used to further refine the project.

Building on best practices from transit agencies globally, the design provides a complete barrier that shields a bus operator’s workspace from the passenger compartment – greatly reducing the risk of being assaulted, while maintaining a clear unobstructed view of both mirrors to ensure safe operation of the vehicle.

“Safety and security are paramount to the TTC, and we are very pleased to continue working alongside ATU to find ways to better protect our operators,” said TTC Chair Jamaal Myers. “I look forward to additional updates on this project, as we continue to refine the design.”

“Protecting our bus operators from assaults is a priority for us, and this design will greatly improve the security and safety of our bus operators,” said TTC Interim CEO Greg Percy. “I want to thank our union partners and Centennial College for this incredibly important partnership with the TTC.”

“With the number of assaults on public transit, our union has been leading the way in the industry on safety and security,” said ATU International President John Costa. “This partnership with the TTC and Centennial College is creating a prototype bus to improve bus operator security, vision from blind spots, ergonomics, and biohazard protections. It will revolutionize the design of our bus fleets to ensure the health and safety of our bus operators and our riders.”

The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.

“Improved Health and Safety standards in public transit is crucial. Through the Bus Design Innovation Program, we have an opportunity to develop a new global benchmark in bus design and safety. Transit Professionals have the right to a safe and healthy work environment just as our ridership deserves to feel safe and secure when choosing public transportation,” said Marvin Alfred, President of ATU 113. “Increased protection is needed due to the sharp rise in incidences of violence against our members and riders. The safety and security of all who use public transportation is our highest priority and preventing injuries and saving lives is worth fighting for.”
The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.

The TTC and ATU will continue to gather feedback throughout the year at upcoming conferences and employee events. Further updates on this project will be presented publicly through upcoming TTC Board meetings.
 
Although he's only the interim CEO, looks like Percy (by his own words) is looking to make an effort to be more visble compared to the previous useless CEO Rick Leary:


Let's see how things play out.
 
TTC and ATU showcase proposed bus design at ATU Canada conference

Oct. 17, 2024

The TTC and ATU continue to collaborate with Centennial College on the Bus Design Innovation Project, improving security and providing bus operators with a healthier environment. The innovative design was most recently showcased at the ATU Canada Conference 2024 in September. Transit stakeholders provided feedback on the design, which will be used to further refine the project.

Building on best practices from transit agencies globally, the design provides a complete barrier that shields a bus operator’s workspace from the passenger compartment – greatly reducing the risk of being assaulted, while maintaining a clear unobstructed view of both mirrors to ensure safe operation of the vehicle.

“Safety and security are paramount to the TTC, and we are very pleased to continue working alongside ATU to find ways to better protect our operators,” said TTC Chair Jamaal Myers. “I look forward to additional updates on this project, as we continue to refine the design.”

“Protecting our bus operators from assaults is a priority for us, and this design will greatly improve the security and safety of our bus operators,” said TTC Interim CEO Greg Percy. “I want to thank our union partners and Centennial College for this incredibly important partnership with the TTC.”

“With the number of assaults on public transit, our union has been leading the way in the industry on safety and security,” said ATU International President John Costa. “This partnership with the TTC and Centennial College is creating a prototype bus to improve bus operator security, vision from blind spots, ergonomics, and biohazard protections. It will revolutionize the design of our bus fleets to ensure the health and safety of our bus operators and our riders.”

The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.

“Improved Health and Safety standards in public transit is crucial. Through the Bus Design Innovation Program, we have an opportunity to develop a new global benchmark in bus design and safety. Transit Professionals have the right to a safe and healthy work environment just as our ridership deserves to feel safe and secure when choosing public transportation,” said Marvin Alfred, President of ATU 113. “Increased protection is needed due to the sharp rise in incidences of violence against our members and riders. The safety and security of all who use public transportation is our highest priority and preventing injuries and saving lives is worth fighting for.”
The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.

The TTC and ATU will continue to gather feedback throughout the year at upcoming conferences and employee events. Further updates on this project will be presented publicly through upcoming TTC Board meetings.

For anyone interested in seeing this, there's shots of it in this news video clip from CHCH.

Basically, the operator compartment has what's much more like an actual full door that opens and closes to enter. It's plexiglass (or whatever material that is) from about the waist up level if you were standing beside it, and there's one of those little round hole-punch portals you can talk through to the operator, like on streetcars.

You don't really see it clearly until almost the very end of the video where they show someone sitting down and closing it (and I feel for the camera guy dispatched to get 20 seconds of footage of this scintillating event of people looking at a door).

 
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