TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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yup

 

[muller877]

All of the month of the Don land is gone under the Keating plan that requires 4 m of earth on top of it. The Lake Shore land is held by others which is part of Waterfront Plan and will not be use for TTC yard.

You need something off the Leslie line since Cherry St extension is close to 2030 before its built.

TTC looked at the Portland area before going with the current yard location since it was the only large parcel of land it could find then.

Why buy more land. Use what they have and intensive the development. They can look at adding a second level to some of their yards. Expensive but not as expensive as land it becoming (plus all the issues of getting tracks to the facility are already complete).

 

[Towered]

Again the city keeps shootings itself by not allowing TTC to have tracks on Richmond to Bathurst St from Parliament as well Adelaide. This would help TTC when King and Queen has to be close for events and not put pressure on the other route.

If TTC goes ahead with the extra 100 cars, other than Hillcrest where will TTC find land for another yard to hold 100 cars??

What is the reason they don't want to run service on Richmond when there are already tracks there?

 

[innsertnamehere]

Doesn't the Leslie Barns have space for close to 200 cars in itself? My understanding was that the Barns created a ton of additional storage capacity. Plus you always have the exhibition loop for an additional 10 or so overflow spots.

Also, given the relatively recent increases in 24hr service, total storage needs are lower.

 

[drum118]

What is the reason they don't want to run service on Richmond when there are already tracks there?

I said Parliament to Bathurst, but cars do use the road if all the overhead has been replace after reconstruction. Victoria intersection still needs to be rebuilt. Haven't look at Richmond in sometime.

Why buy more land. Use what they have and intensive the development. They can look at adding a second level to some of their yards. Expensive but not as expensive as land it becoming (plus all the issues of getting tracks to the facility are already complete).

You try double decking the 2 current yard and you will be hung from the nearest light post. How would you double deck Roncy and get a ramp in?? Based on soil condition for Leslie, don't think it will support a 2nd level

Its been stated a number of times, a new yard will be needed for expanding the current system, regardless storage cars at the EX over night and how many is that?? A small yard at Hillcrest to service 511 & 512.

How many cars do you think TTC will need if all the expansion takes place as plan, as well others that will surface down the road??

 

[innsertnamehere]

you could easily do a small yard between the sobeys and the rail corridor at the Humber Loop as well, probably enough to store 20-30 cars, to service the 501. It's in a hydro corridor, but if all you are doing is parking trains, it's not a problem. I think it's owned by the food terminal right now.

 

[drum118]

you could easily do a small yard between the sobeys and the rail corridor at the Humber Loop as well, probably enough to store 20-30 cars, to service the 501. It's in a hydro corridor, but if all you are doing is parking trains, it's not a problem. I think it's owned by the food terminal right now.

Again, until Hydro One changes its tune, nothing new is going to be build in their corridor.

There are plans floating around what going to happen to the Food Terminal and lands, but decades down the road at this time.

If they built the Queensway Line to Sherway, there are a few spots for a yard along the route.

 

[Richard White]

Again, until Hydro One changes its tune, nothing new is going to be build in their corridor.

There are plans floating around what going to happen to the Food Terminal and lands, but decades down the road at this time.

If they built the Queensway Line to Sherway, there are a few spots for a yard along the route.

Has anyone considered burying a streetcar yard? Why build up when you can build a few dozen layers underground? Nothing like building a streetcar yard that doubles as a bomb shelter.

 

[drum118]

Has anyone considered burying a streetcar yard? Why build up when you can build a few dozen layers underground? Nothing like building a streetcar yard that doubles as a bomb shelter.

Been done in a number of places in Europe, including buses with development on top of it. The development pays for building the yard in the first place.

 

[Voltz]

Has anyone considered burying a streetcar yard? Why build up when you can build a few dozen layers underground? Nothing like building a streetcar yard that doubles as a bomb shelter.

Would be worthwhile, considering how long it takes to get our streetcars we gotta keep them safe in the event of a calamity.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Would be worthwhile, considering how long it takes to get our streetcars we gotta keep them safe in the event of a calamity.

Streetcars are more important than residents. They only come once or twice a month while residents keep on flowing in.

 

[drum118]

The garage I saw in Geneva in 2012 was 3 levels with the lower level below ground staff parking, ground level buses and trams with the upper level for buses and offices.

 

[MetroMan]

Cressy has confirmed that the next batch of Flexity’s are going to be put into service on the 504 on King Street.

 

[nfitz]

Cressy has confirmed that the next batch of Flexity’s are going to be put into service on the 504 on King Street.

This morning there are 10 Flexitys on 512 as often is the case, and 3 are on 504, which I don't think I've seen on a weekday for a while.

 

[muller877]

The garage I saw in Geneva in 2012 was 3 levels with the lower level below ground staff parking, ground level buses and trams with the upper level for buses and offices.

Talk about defeat-ism. If transit staff aren't using transit we have a problem!

(which is of course what happens in Toronto even areas where there is 24/7 service)