ksun
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I am in shock that there are 29 stops between dufferin and cherry, including the famous Simcoe and Victoria stops. Not sure what is supposed for.
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TTC: Cherry Street reconstruction and streetcar trackage (City of Toronto/TTC, U/C)
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Megaton327
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Not sure what there is to be shocked about, really. It's a local route, not an express--given the traffic lights and cross streets there isn't much useful stop reduction to be done. Simcoe and Victoria are slated for removal soon.
drum118
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Simcoe & Victoria exist today, Tomorrow they are gone.
There are a few other that need to go and on the list to go, but no timetable at this time.
4421 going southbound on the ROW
ksun
Senior Member
You are assuming the streetcar will meet every red light so there is no time wasted in stopping before each of them for unloading. If Simcoe and Victoria are already slated to be removed, why bother having these two stops on day 1 of service? Just because 504 does? None of it makes any sense.
What exactly is a "local" route? Does 400-500 meter spacing constitute "express" service？
AlbertHWagstaff
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TODAY is Day 1 of service on the 514. Yesterday was the ceremonial opening with only one trip.
Steve X
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Today is the day the stops are removed, the start of a new TTC board and the actual start of any new TTC services. The media fooled everyone that yesterday the line started running. The media also fooled everyone with the new streetcar used for that special trip. Guess what, all 5 cars on the route are CLRVs.
TransitBart
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** Extra, Extra!! A little Sunday Morning News**
I took my sister-in-law to work this morning. On the way home I shadowed 4421 from Dufferin Loop to Distillery Loop. Here are the photos. It's a beautiful summer morning and a great day for transit in the city. Or transit nerds or both.
Northbound on Dufferin.
King at Sudbury.
King turning south at Sumach.
Cherry looking east at Front.
Northbound out of Distillery Loop.
Northbound at Cherry and Mill.
I took my sister-in-law to work this morning. On the way home I shadowed 4421 from Dufferin Loop to Distillery Loop. Here are the photos. It's a beautiful summer morning and a great day for transit in the city. Or transit nerds or both.
Northbound on Dufferin.
King at Sudbury.
King turning south at Sumach.
Cherry looking east at Front.
Northbound out of Distillery Loop.
Northbound at Cherry and Mill.
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TransitBart
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And I took a walk early this morning and I am pleased to report back that every car, truck, bike and streetcar seemed to be getting it right. I walked from the loop to King and Sumach and back. All's well.
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TransitBart
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You can have a reverse red arrow light?
Somehow reversing the colours here makes a great deal more sense to me as a driver. I like this. To me this says clearly. "DON'T GO THIS DIRECTION"
nfitz
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And it's in service this morning. Even on Nextbus already.
5 CLRVs out right now.
There's not much signage indicating where you should be, other than the rather high-up no entry signs, which I think are a bit far down.
Someone just following the tracks is in for a surprise. Someone who mistakes the median for being between the two lanes may end up heading south in the northbound car lane.
I think a bit more signage and paint would solve all that.
I guess time will tell.
5 CLRVs out right now.
The spot I worry about is the left-hand turn from King Street heading west to Sumach heading south.
There's not much signage indicating where you should be, other than the rather high-up no entry signs, which I think are a bit far down.
Someone just following the tracks is in for a surprise. Someone who mistakes the median for being between the two lanes may end up heading south in the northbound car lane.
I think a bit more signage and paint would solve all that.
I guess time will tell.
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TransitBart
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Napoleon
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Somehow all of the US, plus pretty much every else I've traveled in the world uses the red arrow. Even color blind people can recognize the relative positions of the lights, i.e. red on top and green on bottom. Canada is pretty much the only place I've ever seen that doesn't use red arrows, so I'm sure people would adapt.
ottbike
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W. K. Lis
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Don't drive on the "grass"!
Then again, "grass" is still illegal in Canada to use, man, apparently. They're just mixed up on the definition, so they played it safe. Didn't so any kind of "grass". Peace, man!
Then again, "grass" is still illegal in Canada to use, man, apparently. They're just mixed up on the definition, so they played it safe. Didn't so any kind of "grass". Peace, man!
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Megaton327
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A few pictures from today. Firstly, thought I'd show the configuration of the Transit Priority lights onto+off of Sumach--interestingly, the northbound transit light coming off Sumach has all lights off when it's not the transit phase and just the bar on during the transit phase, as opposed to having the red light on at all times a la Queen's Quay and Spadina:
CLRV 4044 showing the westbound 504 Dufferin rollsigns (eastbound they show 504 Parliament) and the special 514 placard, then shown servicing the Mill St (Distillery Loop) stop:
Finally, LFLRV 4421 turning in the loop and servicing the loop stop (I just noticed, he seems to have stopped short of the proper position for the accessibility ramp, though nobody happened to need it):
CLRV 4044 showing the westbound 504 Dufferin rollsigns (eastbound they show 504 Parliament) and the special 514 placard, then shown servicing the Mill St (Distillery Loop) stop:
Finally, LFLRV 4421 turning in the loop and servicing the loop stop (I just noticed, he seems to have stopped short of the proper position for the accessibility ramp, though nobody happened to need it):
