Conrad Black
Senior Member
The subway does give it an urban feel. I only use the train when I visit.
Toronto Yorkdale Shopping Centre | ?m | ?s | Oxford Properties | MMC Architecture
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picard102
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Nice try. But you can't state that Torontonians don't go to Yorkdale and then try and pretend you didn't say it.
Filip
Senior Member
I said most Torontonians (Etobicoke, Scarborough etc, etc are all part of Toronto) don't go to Yorkdale. Even then, I doubt 50%+1 of Toronto goes to Yorkdale on a semi-regular basis.
Filip
Senior Member
This feels urban?
I can't believe this is even being discussed! Yorkdale is your quintessential suburban mall surrounded by acres of surface parking and two highways.
drum118
Superstar
As it stands today, there is nothing stopping us from putting in mid/highrise buildings along the north and west side of this mall.
All the parking would have to go underground by 6 storey.
With the current extension underway to the south, there is no room for anymore development on that side.
What can happen to this mall over years as well costing millions of dollars, is start redevelopment this mall to make it a fraction of the current size by adding floors to it.
It can be a combination of both retail and residential to reach the max height for the east end first. You could throw in office space. You start on the east side and move west with a 6 storey underground parking garage.
Building a new connection from the mall to the subway station both underground and overhead is going to be fun.
All the parking would have to go underground by 6 storey.
With the current extension underway to the south, there is no room for anymore development on that side.
What can happen to this mall over years as well costing millions of dollars, is start redevelopment this mall to make it a fraction of the current size by adding floors to it.
It can be a combination of both retail and residential to reach the max height for the east end first. You could throw in office space. You start on the east side and move west with a 6 storey underground parking garage.
Building a new connection from the mall to the subway station both underground and overhead is going to be fun.
Tewder
Senior Member
This feels urban?
I can't believe this is even being discussed! Yorkdale is your quintessential suburban mall surrounded by acres of surface parking and two highways.
The surroundings are indeed suburban but the mall is not by virtue of having a link to the subway and thereby the city. In this sense it is not a 'quintessential' mall at all.
Filip
Senior Member
Fairview has a subway link, STC has a rapid transit link, Sherway 'could' have a subway link the medium term future.. Basically most regional malls in the 416 have some sort of rapid transit connection. It hardly makes them special or urban.
Tewder
Senior Member
... well I would agree that in these cases the urban and suburban intersect, but again this doesn't make them 'quintessential' malls. You'd have to venture out a little further beyond the reach of the city to experience that in its purity.
jje1000
Senior Member
Fairview, Yorkdale, STC, Square One all have the potential to be urban malls. They simply aren't right now.
pw20
Active Member
Does Urban Toronto own Yorkdale?
As I mentioned earlier... Yorkdale is funny in a sense that it is a VERY upscale mall surrounded by relatively low-end housing... As opposed to Don Mills or Bayview Village or the Promenade, while Yorkdale has cachet the area around it doesn't.
If ANY condo's were to be built I can see the mall trying to integrate itself with Dufferin on the West side, but again... that is probably one of the bleakest stretches of Dufferin in the city.
I'd also argue that Yorkdale does so well from a retail perspective BECAUSE it is one floor.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
The connection to the Yorkdale Subway station looks and feels like an afterthought. It was put in just to make a pathway, and a bad pathway at that. Steps to up and over a roadway, steps to go down and to the station entrance. The station itself has escalators, but the pathway does not, which I see as odd.
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TheProfessor
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I was driving by yesterday morning at around 9:30am on the 401 and there was a huge helicopter hovering over the mall and it had some sort of hoist below it. It had clearly just dropped something rather large off at the site. Anyone have any insight?
It was a strange sight.
It was a strange sight.
Disparishun
Active Member
Live in a new condo community with indoor connection to one of Toronto's largest malls, immediately on top of a subway station, and with 2-minute car access to both the 401 and the Allen? It wouldn't be for everyone, but there's certainly a market for that -- compare to some of the condos going up around Downsview station.
drum118
Superstar
Due to the size of the mall now, no crane is going to get close enough to it, to place AC or other large objects on the roof. There for, helicopter has to be used to make those lifts of large objects onto the roof from now on.
There was a helicopter lift on University Ave just a few days ago, because there is no crane that can reach that high, as well being able to lift the weight of the object.
drum118
Superstar
Dec 25
Its looks like what people were seeing in November was the placement of steel on the section of the old Eaton's Mall area. I would say off hands its for a solar panel system and could not get a clear shot of it for some reason.
Steel is going up on the east end with twin 36WF (?) between the columns supporting the steel joist. Not sure why twin beam tie together are being used here other than snow loading and that's pushing it.
The west end still has a fair amount of work to be done before its at grade.
Lots more photos up on site.
Its looks like what people were seeing in November was the placement of steel on the section of the old Eaton's Mall area. I would say off hands its for a solar panel system and could not get a clear shot of it for some reason.
Steel is going up on the east end with twin 36WF (?) between the columns supporting the steel joist. Not sure why twin beam tie together are being used here other than snow loading and that's pushing it.
The west end still has a fair amount of work to be done before its at grade.
Lots more photos up on site.