Toronto Water's Edge at the Cove | 182.26m | 56s | Conservatory Group | Richmond Architects

I read that article and there's things I agree with and vehemently disagree with. First of all, that planner, Greenberg, claims that there's not enough retail. Ya, well maybe he could explain why all the retail in developments from 3 years ago ARE STILL SITTING EMPTY! Clearly the demand is not there, and development is a business, therefore you're not going to put it in for the sake of it. Clearly there's a disconnect with the commercial demand in the area and the residents. The only thing that seems to do exceedingly well are the restaurants.

Also, Mimico has to gentrify. The Lakeshore strip is pathetic and believe it or not, getting worse. There is not a single night that there isn't a fleet of cop cars in front of one of those bedbug palaces. Prostitutes and drug dealers roam the street and make it uncomfortable for many people. One of my friends moved to Mimico (Superior and Lakeshore) as she is in love with the area, but once her lease is up, she is leaving. The stories she told me are cringe-worthy especially as I live not a 10 min walk away. I know some of these 'socially-aware' residents of Mimico want the area to preserve its affordable housing and rental apartments (as is dictated by the law) but for those owners to redevelop and build something worthy of such a prime waterfront location, there will need to be profit. Profit won't come from demolishing and rebuilding a 5 storey building, but from towers. So clearly we have two options in Mimico, leave it as is and watch it further deteriorate, or let developers have their way with the apartment strip. I saw the plans for the Amadeo Court. I think they're gorgeous. Granted, I believe the heights are a bit excessive (tallest in Mimico should be 30, not 44) but the design and urban realm is gorgeous. The plaza front the lake, and the connection with the existing Mimico waterfront is very well planned.

At each one of these Mimico 20/20 redevelopment meetings, I end up arguing with the residents whose heads are way up in the clouds. Similar themes are "we want Mimico to be beautiful, we want the apartment strip cleaned up, BUT we want to preserve the affordable rentals".. Well guess what, that entire sentence is an oxymoron to anyone vaguely familiar with how development works. They keep pointing to the revitalization of Regent Park or the planned Alexandra Park one, however, do they not realize that those developments are publicly owned? Mimico's bedbug strip is unfortunately privately owned by slumlords who haven't invested a single dime in that building since they were built. I've been inside some of these buildings, I didn't think such standards existed in Toronto, let alone ON the lake along some of the nicest waterfront in the city. Concrete floors in the hallways, wires dangling from the ceilings, cracking balconies, elevators that work about a week of the entire year... I could go on and on, but that's why you're paying about $800 all utilities included for a one bedroom.. That's appealing to the prostitutes and drug dealers inhabiting these buildings.
 
Basically the only formula for Mimico to clean up is for the public to expropriate that strip of apartment buildings. Nobody has the appetite for that kind of investment, so either you let developers build stratospheric condos, or deal with the crime and low property values.

God I hate some of my idiots neighbours who go to these meetings ranting about condos.
 
what happened to this rendering showed on the 400 foot list it is amazing
 

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I agree Filip. With the exception of the Shoreline Towers, the entire strip of ghastly 50's rental apartments needs to be completely razed. I honestly don't care how tall the subsequent towers would be - as long as they create a beautiful street wall along Lake Shore Blvd and allow a nice public promenade along the lake and rid us of what's there currently, give them carte blanche.
 
The public promenade is under construction right now. It will connect the first phase of the Mimico Linear Park to the Humber Bay Promenade over by Grand Harbour. The project is set to be completed for late summer/early fall. I'm very excited for it!

Here's a picture from the existing Mimico park.. The area is blessed with its natural surroundings, yet cursed by poor decisions from 60 years ago...

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Here's some schematics of the new promenade:

http://www.trca.on.ca/dotAsset/124825.pdf
 
Time to update the map of the area projects:

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Realtor Andrew Lafleur via Twitter:

Wow. Conservatory's Waterways condo in Etobicoke is now up to 56 Storeys. This site's pro-forma just keeps getting better for the developers

and...

I've been told it might even get higher than 56 storeys when it's all said and done too! #waterways
 
Not surprised. Eau du Soleil has raised the ceiling on what planners thought was an acceptable height at HBS. They're even encouraging Monarch to reduce the height of the Marine Parade building at Lago, and add its density to the tower. It won't be 50s much longer..
 
Finally got a dataBase page up on this project. There are several renderings you may not have seen.
 
I've been looking for documents to confirm how tall (56 reported above) but haven't found them yet. If anyone finds them, a link would be lovely!

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Still don't know where the zoning application for this building is, but the zoning app for Lago, right beside this project, refers to this one at 56 storeys, so the thread title and Waterways dataBase entry have been changed to reflect that.

Updated map:

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Good job on removing the name of this project. The sales office now says "Cove at Waterways" everywhere. "Waterways" has sunk.
 

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