Union Station Revitalization | ?m | ?s | City of Toronto | NORR

[JasonParis]

Moynihan is "just barely" over a tiny portion of Penn's tracks. But it will be nice for Amtrak passengers, mostly, while making some surplus space available to allow for some incremental upgrades to other parts of Penn.

 

[DSC]

Moynihan is "just barely" over a tiny portion of Penn's tracks. But it will be nice for Amtrak passengers, mostly, while making some surplus space available to allow for some incremental upgrades to other parts of Penn.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/...?action=click&module=Features&pgtype=Homepage

 

[isaidso]

The Union Station Renovation cost 800 million while New York spent 1.6 billion or double.

If you spend double, you are going to get a better quality result. This Moynihan Train Hall was done on budget and on time. It's also very inspirational and has a wow factor. Union Station Renovation lacks the wow factor.

Toronto will get another kick at the can when the new rail station on the old Lever factory site is realized. It's a blank slate so hopefully we get something comparable to Penn Station/Moynihan Train Hall.

 

[allengeorge]

Toronto will get another kick at the can when the new rail station on the old Lever factory site is realized. It's a blank slate so hopefully we get something comparable to Penn Station/Moynihan Train Hall.

Yeah - I dunno. Think about how many times the design and expense of the YSE stations are brought up. Also, look at the design of Woodbine GO. I think we should expect something like that, as opposed to something awe-inspiring.

 

[DSC]

Toronto will get another kick at the can when the new rail station on the old Lever factory site is realized. It's a blank slate so hopefully we get something comparable to Penn Station/Moynihan Train Hall.

I assume you are new around here! :->

 

[Ervin]

I realize this is a very old question, but when is this thing going to be done?

 

[Richard White]

I realize this is a very old question, but when is this thing going to be done?

It is supposed to be finished?

 

[Mercenary]

They said end of 2020.

Not sure what else is left to be completed.

 

[DSC]

They said end of 2020.

Not sure what else is left to be completed.

Where to start ......

The Bay concourse is not yet open (though it looks almost finished) - next stage is Metrolinx fit out.
The Bay moat paving, almost done but not finished
The painting of the ceiling below Great Hall area - oddly left unpainted for years!
Opening the new stairs from below Great Hall to new Bay concourse
The opening of the new connection to the south towards SBA (and the closure of the ramp that's there now.)
The passageway between Front East and Front West moats - plus the artwork (the artists are still stuck in Europe.
The ability to go east of the Great Hall and exit through the east wing doors @ corner of Front and Bay
The remaining floor repairs i Great Hall
Replacing the Great Hall lights

plus, no doubt, more.

 

[Allandale25]

They said end of 2020.

Not sure what else is left to be completed.

Where to start ......

The Bay concourse is not yet open (though it looks almost finished) - next stage is Metrolinx fit out.
The Bay moat paving, almost done but not finished
The painting of the ceiling below Great Hall area - oddly left unpainted for years!
Opening the new stairs from below Great Hall to new Bay concourse
The opening of the new connection to the south towards SBA (and the closure of the ramp that's there now.)
The passageway between Front East and Front West moats - plus the artwork (the artists are still stuck in Europe.
The ability to go east of the Great Hall and exit through the east wing doors @ corner of Front and Bay
The remaining floor repairs i Great Hall
Replacing the Great Hall lights

plus, no doubt, more.

I was in the Bay Concourse recently and there still appears to be some materials/equipment behind the construction hoarding.

Will certainly be a change when the big centre light in the Great Hall goes from yellow to white (I assume).

 

[Deadpool X]

Toronto will get another kick at the can when the new rail station on the old Lever factory site is realized. It's a blank slate so hopefully we get something comparable to Penn Station/Moynihan Train Hall.

That will be a small station like Exhibition. It won't be a convergence point for 7 GO lines and VIA Rail.

 

[superelevation]

Toronto will get another kick at the can when the new rail station on the old Lever factory site is realized. It's a blank slate so hopefully we get something comparable to Penn Station/Moynihan Train Hall.

That will be a small station like Exhibition. It won't be a convergence point for 7 GO lines and VIA Rail.

Well it is unlikely to be as minor as Exhibition, cmon don't compare it to Penn!

 

[nfitz]

Well it is unlikely to be as minor as Exhibition, cmon don't compare it to Penn!

Almost identical. 4 GO tracks, 2 GO islands, 2 subway platforms. Well, perhaps one of the Exhibition islands will be a side platform. Similar service levels.

 

[SunriseChampion]

That will be a small station like Exhibition.

No pissers, temporary shed building, unfinished additions for a decade, bottleneck underpass? We don't need another one, though they'd make nice bookends to the perpetual construction in between.


I was at Union last week and was shocked.....shocked!....to get to walk through a part of the Bay Concourse, most of which was still looking like I would expect it to look like for another year or two.

I don't even want it to be finished....it'll be weird at this point.

 

[Northern Light]

No pissers, temporary shed building, unfinished additions for a decade, bottleneck underpass? We don't need another one, though they'd make nice bookends to the perpetual construction in between.


I was at Union last week and was shocked.....shocked!....to get to walk through a part of the Bay Concourse, most of which was still looking like I would expect it to look like for another year or two.

I don't even want it to be finished....it'll be weird at this point.

Hey Sunrise, you're a handy fella; and it turns out no matter how much the City forks over, we can't seem to get Union done.

Why don't you pitch to the City to assume the contract.

No, no consortium, just you.

At triple your normal rate, you'd still be 95% cheaper than past contractors; and bonus...........there's a good chance you'd finish something in the next year.

Pretty sure that's bonus territory. (err, a change order, since the original tender won't actually require that you to finish anything)

Doubt you'd need any help, but on the off chance, it would surely just be for physical labour...........so you could partner with a gym, take 3/4 of the monthly fee and just give someone a workout moving stuff where you need it!