SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Prolly not about UP Express, but announcement taking place there.
Minister of Transportation to Make an Announcement
Minister of Transportation to Make an Announcement
Toronto Union Pearson Express | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | MMM Group Limited
Northern Light
Superstar
I posted this as well in the Doug Ford political thread as I couldn't discern the exact nature of the announcement. Could be UPX related or could be GO's Fall schedule improvements, amongst other things.
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
YYZ Intermodal transit terminal??? LOL imagine?
Allandale25
Senior Member
Local MP wants the Liberty Village Stop to also serve UP Express ("no" should be "now" I assume). Also, the actual name according to the map below is "King-Liberty".
robmausser
Senior Member
The reason is that Torontonians (and most humans for that matter) wear blinders. They dont understand what EMUs are or rapid electrified regional transit is. All they know is GO Trains, big, slow hulking things, and the UPX, a quick, frequent nimble service.
They think that getting a GO Train at Liberty is getting a SLOW train. The current trains on GO. NO amount of telling them otherwise will change their thoughts. Until the first GO-RER or whatever you wanna call is built, they won't understand.
The same mentality can be heard with people crying "no more stations on my XX GO train line! Service is already slow enough from Barrie, Kitchener, Mount Joy, etc!" They dont understand express service, and how by splitting the GO train service into two tiers, one with EMU's in the 905 and the other with the current trains out to the fringes, will shave 30+ minutes off their commute.
torontocolin
Active Member
Or it's because they see Pearson as a much more useful destination than Bramalea or Kitchener.
robmausser
Senior Member
If we allow the UPX to stop at every stop along the way to Pearson, thats fine, but it will kill the service and we will have to drop the X from UPX.
crs1026
Superstar
^Or we just get on with electrification, preserve/reduce the running time notwithstanding another stop added, and make the service truly useful.
- Paul
- Paul
dowlingm
Senior Member
It's electric motors, not warp speed mate. It doesn't add a second platform at Union or increase the approach speed to Pearson, surely?
TransitBart
Senior Member
God, Adam Vaughan is painful.
sixrings
Senior Member
I don't know we don't add stops at st clair Eglinton liberty village and make this the Ontario line west extension.
torontocolin
Active Member
If we reach a point where we're servicing the Kitchener line with EMUs on 15 minute intervals to both Pearson and Bramalea, do we really need special branding for one of those services at all?
animatronic
Senior Member
Smart track is meaningless. Airport Express branding has value.
torontocolin
Active Member
It also has overhead. Costs for separate PRESTO infrastructure, different logos, colour schemes, staff uniforms, etc. If demand modelling shows that limiting stops increases use then sure, go for it, but you could just call it an express GO train to the airport. But we should set service to match use, not to match the brands we created for it.
animatronic
Senior Member
No, it’s critical that the airport train staff be dressed like Cold War Czechoslovakian border guards..