Toronto The One | 328.4m | 91s | Mizrahi Developments | Foster + Partners

Enough of the negativity directed to other members, move on or people will be on (self isolating) holiday.

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We're all bummed because this inconvenient life threatening pandemic interferes with a legit supertall construction. (and bad permit management).

It's not a stump at least.

Suggest we all go bowling... oops lanes are closed too.
 
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Every time i have walked by the site the workers are more than 2 metres from each other, all the photos that have been posted indicate the same as i have observed.I do smaller residential and we have projects that are near completion, they are moving slow as some trades have stopped working, we can continue to work as per the legislation but i still gave my employees the option of staying home or working safely, some have continued to work and some have stayed home, my own son being one of them, if the site is clean and people are following safe working procedures it's up to them as long as they are allowed under the rules.
 
Though I would like to see this project proceed, it is understandable why people are not terribly keen on the developer. They remember that Stollerys was demolished on a weekend (see: https://torontoist.com/2015/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-stollerys/ ) and that construction work was going on with no permits or incomplete ones. It would appear that the developer is not too respectful of 'rules' so the 2 meter one may also be ignored.
 
DSC said:
Though I would like to see this project proceed, it is understandable why people are not terribly keen on the developer. They remember that Stollerys was demolished on a weekend (see: https://torontoist.com/2015/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-stollerys/ ) and that construction work was going on with no permits or incomplete ones. It would appear that the developer is not too respectful of 'rules' so the 2 meter one may also be ignored.
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I don't believe Mizrahi has much to do with workers meeting the 2 meter distancing, that will be up to the site superintendent to enforce.
 
Kenojuak said:
Mizrahi built his entire foundation without a permit. Obviously thinks he is above the rules. He is now operating a construction site in flagrant violation of an emergency public health order. It makes me wonder what other corners he has cut.
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While I suspect Mizrahi was playing fast and loose with the rules for a while now, creating many headaches for himself, his creditors and contractors, but something is not really adding up here. That is, why did it take the city so long to put out a work stoppage. What was it, 2 years of shoring, excavating and foundation building up before they sent the notice? Or is it just the wheels of bureaucracy moving slowly before issuing said stoppage?

Furthermore, it to my understanding he's has permission to finish to grade now. Or where you implying he even circumvented that...as it really wasn't a permission to begin with? That's a pretty serious accusation IMO if that's the case. If not, then why is this an issue for him to complete to grade now if he has the permission as long as everyone involved is practicing the current protocols? Or am I missing something?
 
UtakataNoAnnex said:
While I suspect Mizrahi was playing fast and loose with the rules for a while now, creating many headaches for himself, his creditors and contractors, but something is not really adding up here. That is, why did it take the city so long to put out a work stoppage. What was it, 2 years of shoring, excavating and foundation building up before they sent the notice? Or is it just the wheels of bureaucracy moving slowly before issuing said stoppage?

Furthermore, it to my understanding he's has permission to finish to grade now. Or where you implying he even circumvented that...as it really wasn't a permission to begin with? That's a pretty serious accusation IMO if that's the case. If not, then why is this an issue for him to complete to grade now if he has the permission as long as everyone involved is practicing the current protocols? Or am I missing something?
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He had permits to shore, excavate and remediate the property. He built most of the below-grade levels without a permit. I agree, the City was slow to issue a stop work order. However the system does rely in large part on participants acting in good faith and following rules.

Yes he has a permit to finish to grade now. That means he has to stop. The provincial order (O. Reg. 82/20, 30(ii)) only allows residential and mixed-use projects to continue where “an above grade structural permit has been granted” which does not apply to The One.

Once again we see this developer does not believe the rules apply to him.
 
UtakataNoAnnex said:
While I suspect Mizrahi was playing fast and loose with the rules for a while now, creating many headaches for himself, his creditors and contractors, but something is not really adding up here. That is, why did it take the city so long to put out a work stoppage. What was it, 2 years of shoring, excavating and foundation building up before they sent the notice? Or is it just the wheels of bureaucracy moving slowly before issuing said stoppage?

Furthermore, it to my understanding he's has permission to finish to grade now. Or where you implying he even circumvented that...as it really wasn't a permission to begin with? That's a pretty serious accusation IMO if that's the case. If not, then why is this an issue for him to complete to grade now if he has the permission as long as everyone involved is practicing the current protocols? Or am I missing something?
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You're missing something......he ignored the work order.......they issued an order to comply and he ignored that too. Not a reputable contractor on the planet would do something that stupid. You're basically saying .."come shut me down and put everything I do from this point on under extreme scrutiny" Mizrahi is a dry cleaning specialist so I'll cut him some slack but he hired a construction management firm. I've been in development and general construction most my life....this is as bad as it gets on a project of this magnitude. Unbelievable.
 
Kenojuak said:
He had permits to shore, excavate and remediate the property. He built most of the below-grade levels without a permit. I agree, the City was slow to issue a stop work order. However the system does rely in large part on participants acting in good faith and following rules.

Yes he has a permit to finish to grade now. That means he has to stop. The provincial order (O. Reg. 82/20, 30(ii)) only allows residential and mixed-use projects to continue where “an above grade structural permit has been granted” which does not apply to The One.

Once again we see this developer does not believe the rules apply to him.
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(Emphasis mine.)

Yeah...that was the thing I was missing. Thanks for explaining all that. /bows
 
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