Toronto The Madison | 121m | 36s | Madison Group | Kirkor
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Roundabout
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someMidTowner
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Thanks for the update Roundabout!
Looks like they are working on the final podium level. We should see this one really take off in the coming months.
Looks like they are working on the final podium level. We should see this one really take off in the coming months.
Midtown Urbanist
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You can already tell the street wall on this one will be impressive for Eglinton.
Roundabout
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Roundabout
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kris
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Probably the slowest project in the city.
someMidTowner
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Not even on the top 10!
Podiums are very complicated compared to the tower floors (which we now see the first of rising on The Madison in Roundabout's update). Lots of one-off concrete forms are used and the layouts change from floor to floor for podium levels. Tower floors are quite repetitive, narrower, and can be built far faster. This project's rate of construction is about to increase dramatically.
cdr108
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plus this is the base for 2 towers so it's a very large floor plate and underground that had to be dug up and constructed for the condo and future retail, etc
kris
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Yes even.
Perhaps you have invested in this or some connection with the developers which is skewing your opinion. It's slow, this is not subjective.
It took Aura less time to build their podium, and since then they managed to build and complete a 78 story tower where as Madison has not even completed their podium.
AHK
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1. There have definitely been other buildings which have been much slower than Madison. My opinion (for what it's worth), anything by Conservatory group (as Developer) and anything by Toddglen Construction such as the Concord Adex Matrix and Apex buildings on Front Street West, or Bloor Street Neighbourhood (35 Hayden, Backing on Charles Street East) were incredibly slow.
2. Aura started construction in January 2010, while Madison started construction in June 2012, two and a half years later. No wonder it is not so far advanced. Also, given the site, Madison probably has more basement space for parking garage per unit than Aura, with its downtown location, which would adds to the construction time line.
3. Your slur against SMT is, again my thoughts, totally ignorant, misinformed, and completely unjustified, and have no place in a forum such as this.
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someMidTowner
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You need to play in all the factors before making sweeping statements that don't take anything else into account. Aura had a massive staging area where multiple trucks could park. The Madison has an already bottlenecked side street. Aura's podium construction didn't coincide with an abnormally cold winter. The Madison's did. You can't pour concrete in extreme cold and that slows things down quite a bit.
Several members on UT will have no trouble naming various projects that have had to deal with similar circumstances, and have taken longer than The Madison.
kris
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There are other slow projects yes, and this is one of them. I am not talking about start of construction I am talking about in 2012 Aura just finished its podium while Madison was finishing the excavation, yet since then Madison has not even completed the podium where as Aura finished up the whole(much larger) building.
You must be new to the internet if you think that's a slur or ignorant. Disagreeing with someone is not a slur or ignorant.
I agree there are factors which contribute to taking more time but that adds to the reasoning that this is slow. Excuses don't make things quicker. Slow is slow regardless of reasons or contributing factors.
Roundabout
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