Red October
Senior Member
Overall I like the design of the tower, I do wish they had those fin-looking extensions at the top from an earlier render though.
EDIT: There we go:
EDIT: There we go:
Toronto Ten York Street Condos | 224.02m | 65s | Tridel | Wallman Architects
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p5connex
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Not sure who posted this idea before, but I am inclined to agree that if it needs to remain a box due to site constraints, cost constraints and builder financing etc., then why not just rotate the building on its vertical axis 45 degrees? I am dumbfounded by how orthogonal and rectilinear all of our buildings are. It is most certainly always the case of cost vs. profit scenario - the same can be said for more sustainable buildings, when the truth is to build more sustainably is marginally higher (approx 2%) in comparison to standard building practices. Ultimately, better design, more sustainable and aesthetic design will outperform, outlast and be overall cheaper to maintain.
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Big Daddy
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It's always a cost issue for condos. The developer has no long term interest in the building. It's sold, then it's built and they are out of there. Office buildings tend to be different because either the landlord/owner intends to own the building long term and is very interested in a building that will sell easily or the anchor tenent is vitally interested in a quality building as they have their name on it.
But Condos? Who cares. Once they are done building it - so long.
Up&Away
New Member
I would love to see a 50 metre spire on top of this tower. I think it could use something distinct on top. Depending on the height as well it may bring this tower over 300 metres.
junctionist
Senior Member
It is possible to meet the challenges of sites and produce the most functional buildings without a pure box. Remember that series on Vancouver architecture here at UT? Not everything was that exciting, but architects there seem to commonly flout the box with gentle curves and angular balconies while still producing very functional, New Modernist condo towers. You can have a curved facade and still have square rooms inside for arranging furniture! Blocking a breathtaking view through an all-glass facade wall with a lot of furniture doesn't make sense anyway.
Something more angular here would have worked better with the flatiron podium. I understand that there are very good reasons for not having a wedge-shaped tower at this location with a lot of blocked views and a point that would be mainly seen from the Gardiner. The flatiron podium is a good compromise in this case, but the wedge bringing the eye to this massive box behind it is jarring. A more angular tower would be better to compliment the podium's interesting point.
wmedia
Senior Member
Aerial view of Toronto skyline circa 2050...
I really did laugh out loud. Thanks for the laughs. Seriously though, I think the circles on the roofs are a little too radical for this conservative city and might be misconstrued as kitsch or dare I say it... 905!
egotrippin
Senior Member
Oh yeah?
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2011/11/scale-model-reveals-more-detail-karmas-design
Scroll down to the part regarding the oval mechanical structure. Though, the rectangular framing around it will probably still generate cries of "another aA box!1".
dt_toronto_geek
Superstar
Gasp!
MDV3
Active Member
Dark purpley-pink??? I think that would be cool... blending into the blue
ProjectEnd
Superstar
You're supposed to have fifteen pieces of flair, no?
someMidTowner
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forgive my crude sketch, but i think something like this would provide a smoother transition from the wedge to the tower, without blocking too many views.... although im sure a lot of people will gag at my adjustment
dt_toronto_geek
Superstar
Good idea, I wouldn't disagree but it could cause those wind load problems on the structure, I don't buy the whole 'loss of views' argument.
kris
Senior Member
forgive my crude sketch, but i think something like this would provide a smoother transition from the wedge to the tower, without blocking too many views.... although im sure a lot of people will gag at my adjustment
kinda like that
scrapergeek
Active Member
Too funny! Clewes has stolen my design. But yeah, the rectangular framing makes it look like yet another aA box! Multiply this by 3000 and sprinkle in a bit more "Toronto Grey" (Benjamin Moore Paint Code 2137-60) and my vision will be complete.
To everyone else, sorry I've gone off topic but it's important some opposing views are in this forum, or it's just a bunch of folks stroking each other's boxes.
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northto
New Member
And voila! Our very own Beekman Tower... erh, Beakman Tower.