Mississauga Square One Expansions and Revitalization | ?m | ?s | Oxford Properties | MMC Architecture

[drum118]

Only one new food outlet open today with a few that may open on Friday after the city inspector show up and pass the work. A number will no be open until late Aug.

The last section of the eating area should be open by next weekend.

5 trailers with steel is sitting in the north-west parking lot. With the columns anchor bolts in place along with the leveling plate and grouting, the first section of the existing parking lot is ready for steel erection and that could happen next week.

The top of one of the 2 skylight to the lower corridor has been remove with steel decking on top of it now.

Looks like the corridor from the north corridor to the centre corridor is history as there is a block wall where the old one was. The new one corridor could be going in next to the service hallway, but not hold too much hope for it. This means that there will be more or larger stores in place of the old corridor.

The escalator went into service by Walmart today.

Lot more photos up on site

 

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Aug 18
The steel erected so far indicates 2 level as steel beams are being used to support the floor area.

Escalators finally installed in the centre court. The west escalators could be up and running this week or next.

The eating area was still missing some trim and then it can open this week.

The corridor between the north and centre court is history and being replace by a large retail unit as well being deep. Not sure who going to pickup the tab to straighten out the front of Laura Petites that is jog for the old corridor.

The floor is going to take until the fall to be replace. October looks like a good completion date for the Renovation except for the expansion area. Next phase will be in 2014 for the south side.

Lot more up on site

 

[Jasonzed]

 

[drum118]

By the looks of that, the last of the steel going next to Target.

When I shot it on Tuesday, only 3 more columns where going to go in there and about haft way back from the edge of Target front.

Not going to be deep, but is 2 story after all.

I guess there is enough roof support both on Target and the Mall roof to take the additional new snow load built up for this addition.

 

[drum118]

Aug 31
Another 2 weeks and all the steel will be up.

2 Food Court retail fail to open for August

They have removed one of the mall mechanical rooms by Sears to open the corridor up. The others one by Sears is nearly ready, but the ones by Walmart and the Bay still down the road yet.

New wall protection in new service corridor

 

[Tngrn]

Ann Taylor is moving to where Club Monoco was. Stance is now opened. The low ceilings by Sears and Hudson Bay courts are being removed. Starbucks is starting renovations on September 4th. White "Hudson Bay" signs replaced the yellow "Hudson Bay Company" signs. The directory now shows the layout of the new addition between Target and Sears.

 

[Jasonzed]

 

[drum118]

Sept 17
Only one more bay of steel to be erected and should be done by Friday.

Roof and floor decking being installed.

They are removing the existing escalators at the main entrance and not sure if they will be replace.

They were testing the escalators in the centre court and looks like they will be in service this weekend. The other set to the west is now in service.

Both arches by Sears are now gone as well one by Bay. No idea if they plan on removing the ones by Walmart and if so, starting in 2014.

Ceiling in place in the Open Kitchen area and very dull there now.

They have removed most of the existing floor tiles on the lower level and expect to see a mad dash installing the new ones in the next week or two. Some of the delay has to due with the lift still being used to finish off various items.

They are in the process of remodeling a fair number of the food court units and expect to see a few more based on the marking of material in the centre court. The last 2 new food court units are open.

 

[drum118]

September 26
The power was off for a 1/4 of the mall today with many of the stores close. Even the existing food court was without power.

The escalators at the main entrance are history and not being replace.

The escalators in the food court still not in service, but waiting for the final work in that area. Pink trim light running around the centre area.

The steel is up for the extension with final touches being done as well waiting the entrance steel work.

Zurmez has close and will reopen in 2014 to make way for the changes in this area to the new extension.

 

[Big Daddy]

Mississauga, a city of 800,000 has a shopping mall as its downtown. I would have thought a company like Oxford would have more vision with such a critical piece of real estate and yet there it sits, a suburban shopping mall - complete with vast areas of open parking space - pretending to be a downtown, pretending to be interesting or significant.

There are thousands of people moving into dozens of new condo towers surrounding this dull plaza, yet Oxford continues to milk this cash cow with no particular plan to take this thing to the next level. In my heart I wish they would sell this centre to a Developer with vision, that could see the possibilities this location offers, at the same time however, I would likely wish for a company like Oxford to pick it up. They have incredible plans for the Hudson Yards in NY and the convention centre site downtown T.O. But here they are content with adding a new entrance onto an aging suburban plaza and plowing snow off of acres of grey, cracked asphalt. Very sad for Mississauga - the biggest suburb in Canada.

 

[interchange42]

Until Mississauga gets criss-crossing rapid transit lines meeting at Square One, you're not going to see this mall replaced with a multi-story version of itself. Land value has to rise first to make wholesale redevelopment economically more attractive, and for that Mississauga will need to be able to move people in and out like a real city does. Until then the mall will remain low-rise.

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[Filip]

I was told from some Holts employees that it is no longer building a store at Square One and simply renovating/expanding the existing Sherway store.

Retail Insider has confirmed a few weeks ago that Holts is most likely staying at Sherway, as for not moving to Square One, anyone know more?

 

[taal]

I think very long term you will see this happen.

But all these other projects will hamper / lower the odds of it happening in the short term; As of course no company will be OK with spending $$$ in building new stores just to have them demolished 5 years later.

But again long term ...

There is a big project in the Vancouver area that strikes me as a good idea here, very similar mall redevelopment.


Another problem for MCC: ... there is very little demand for any new office space, just like NYCC / SCC ... the current office space available does reasonably well in all these markets (not so much SCC) but again new developments tend to go in more suburban areas (i.e. aiport area) or downtown Toronto and now VCC, though we'll need to see how that plays out.

 

[Mithras]

Mississauga, a city of 800,000 has a shopping mall as its downtown. I would have thought a company like Oxford would have more vision with such a critical piece of real estate and yet there it sits, a suburban shopping mall - complete with vast areas of open parking space - pretending to be a downtown, pretending to be interesting or significant.

There are thousands of people moving into dozens of new condo towers surrounding this dull plaza, yet Oxford continues to milk this cash cow with no particular plan to take this thing to the next level. In my heart I wish they would sell this centre to a Developer with vision, that could see the possibilities this location offers, at the same time however, I would likely wish for a company like Oxford to pick it up. They have incredible plans for the Hudson Yards in NY and the convention centre site downtown T.O. But here they are content with adding a new entrance onto an aging suburban plaza and plowing snow off of acres of grey, cracked asphalt. Very sad for Mississauga - the biggest suburb in Canada.

They wanted to make a conference centre and large hotel there, Hazel just got out of the mess that came from that with the conflict of interest and potential kick-backs etc...

Oxford and it's 50% partner AIMco have a plan for this site, they have spent hundreds of millions on it in the past decade or so. The plan involves making a huge amount of money and they have done it very well. Why should they do anything differently and what SHOULD they do differently? Make underground parking lots and parkland above it? You going to foot the $200-350 million it would cost to do that? Build Office space when they own the buildings across the street which do terribly already?

There is no reason for a hotel there. They can trow up some condos or rental apartments, but believe me that has been thought of. Or they can make it bigger a little with a better tenants mix. Incidentally that is what they are doing now...

 

[Big Daddy]

They're not improving any tenant mix, they are simply moving an entrance and creating access to a lower level area that was dying. It was a poor design to begin with. This is not and will not be, an exciting shopping experience. Making piecemeal alterations will not fix the fact that this mall is way overdo for a major rethink and rebuild. Don't tell me the population and infrastructure aren't there because most are, and significant transit improvements are underway.

What's missing is vision and moxie.