Well, if you compare us to other big North American cities, on a time scale, we are nascent. I'm no historian, but just by observing the stats, we are still a relatively young city that's undergoing an explosive growth spurt. Guess you could say Toronto is going through puberty. When looking at world time scales, 200 years is but a few minutes in the grand scheme of things. In those 200 years, what we've accomplished is nothing short of astounding. Considering that we were established in 1793, where as other cities like NYC (established in 1624), Boston (established in 1630), Philadelphia (established in 1682), etc, have been around quite a bit longer, I'd fully agree that we are a city just beginning to grow, really grow. I most definitely see a time, not long in the future that we will overtake most North American cities in many categories. Nothing can change the fact that we're a young city, but what we're doing to our city is well within our control, and as biased as I am (I really do love my city, and am extremely proud to be a life long Torontonian), I can't be beam with pride, especially when you do a little research, and see how for many years, we were one of the smaller cities, and now we've already grown to the 4th largest in North America, overtaking Chicago last year, with only L.A., Mexico City and NYC ahead of us. To achieve so much so fast, at least to me, is nothing short of a miracle. I just pray I live long enough to see us overtake L.A., which, if our growth continues at its present rate, will happen. For those UT members out there who don't often see the core, or the city at all, make a point of spending the day walking around the down town, mid-town, and up-town cores, and compare it to what it looked like only 10 years ago, and I think you;l see what I'm talking about, but that's just me, looking through my rose coloured glasses, just imagine how the city will look if every proposal and current active sites, are completed. We'll be among the most densely packed cities on earth, time will tell, but again, that's only my humble opinion