HowarkRoark
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I just went to Google Images to see what Diamond Schmitt has done and the bulidings look nice.
What do your buildings look like?
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I just went to Google Images to see what Diamond Schmitt has done and the bulidings look nice.
What do your buildings look like?
isaidso
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The invention of the term 'movie theatre' is cringey and pretentious though. 'Theatre' refers to live performance (South Pacific, Phantom of the Opera), not film. The term 'movie theatre'' was a marketing ploy by that industry to make cinema seem more high end. It's like calling your car a 'road yacht'. The term 'movie theatre' has become ubiquitous but it's a misnomer.
The term is 'cinema' deriving from the French word 'cinématographe' to mean 'moving picture'. Over time, cinema came to also mean the process of film making and the place in which they are shown. It's why the Oscars call it cinema.
So there was never any 'theatre' in cinema to begin with.
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daptive
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Multiplexes are one place where I want bigger and better, the only reason I’d watch a movie in theatres is because I want the best picture and the best sound. The current Scotiabank Theatre has one of the top IMAX projection systems in the country and once it’s downsized it won’t be the same experience.
Northern Light
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This is not correct.
Movies began playing in the same 'theatres' where plays, musicals and operas were held, simply adding the screen and the projector.
Most movie theatres, accordingly had full stages and backstages.
Think of the former Uptown Theatre at Yonge/Bloor, the Balmuto side of which had two very small screens tucked behind the main three, which were were known as 'The Backstage" Because they were, they were in the former backstage area of the theatre.
Movie theatre made the distinction between a theatre playing vaudeville or the like and one playing movies.
Purpose-built movie theatres would only arrive later.
Northern Light
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I broadly agree; though, I don't think multi-screen complexes deserve the drubbing you give them here.
The Cumberland as a 4-screen arthouse worked well.
Increased number of screens actually made room for more niche product for a time; than would likely have been seen where theatres were more numerous, but generally only one screen each and therefore more reliant on proven box office draws.
The move from 3-8 screen venues to the 9-30 screen venues did represent a more marked deterioration in the movie going experience both from a venue perspective, but also cinematic diversity.
This is because this shift also really saw the introduction of multiple showtimes and screens for the same movie, at the same venue. So that a 14-screen Paramount/SB cinema instead of having 14 different movies playing, might have only 7, with the latest Fast and Furious getting 4 screens, and Barbie getting 3, and Oppenheimer on 2, before finally getting distinct movies on the rest.
It would generally be challenging to go back to the single-screen concept, as the cost of one manager on duty at every venue, plus one usher, one concession worker, and one box worker minimum sets a much higher base cost of operations.
It doesn't help matters that the business model around theatrical release films these days favours short releases, on saturated screen numbers vs a more slow burn approach.
For example, for those trying to figure out what I'm meaning, Today's model (distributors take 30-40% ticket sales, exhibitors get the rest, plus concession) tends to result in movies being in release for 4-7 weeks then gone and off to TV.
Where in a previous era, a movie would not show up on TV until at least 2 years had passed from its theatrical release date; and cinemas sometimes kept a hit movie (ie. 2001 A Space Odyssey) in release for more than a year!
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Northern Light
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If one is going to see the latest Bond film, I totally get that take; but if you're going to see a quieter film that's not stunt or landscape driven, less so.
Sure, I prefer the clean sightlines of stadium style seating, but I don't think requires 10 screens under one roof, nor does it require and IMAX sized screen.
Also, some of the older raked-floor venues, where re-done with fewer seats and more leg room actually have pretty decent sightlines.
AlbertC
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Doesn't specifically pertain to this project only, but RioCan have paused starting any new construction on projects they have in their pipeline for the foreseeable future:
www.thestar.com
RioCan REIT pauses new construction starts amid high interest rates
TORONTO - High interest rates and rising costs have pushed RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust to put a halt to starting any major new construction projects.
www.thestar.com
Northern Light
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This one is definitely deferred for a bit.......
A new anchor tenant has signed on............. one that will surprise some.
* Crossposted from the Downtown Grocery thread *
One of the smallest build NF in a generation, will face the Richmond Street side.
A new anchor tenant has signed on............. one that will surprise some.
* Crossposted from the Downtown Grocery thread *
One of the smallest build NF in a generation, will face the Richmond Street side.
Amare
Senior Member
Well that's certainly unexpected and to make it even more odd is that it's a No Frills that we'll be seeing; that's something I thought id never seen in a million years right in the heart of the downtown core. In the past we were all expecting more of a Farm Boy/Metro/Sobey's Urban Fresh to pop up in the area. But hey it's something that's been desperately needed in the area for eons now, so at least there's something finally coming for however long that may be for.
On a side note I have no idea why RioCan is using the Famous Player logo, seems like someone on their marketing is asleep on the wheel.
karledice
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People have no money for anything except necessities like rent/mortgage and food now so it makes sense 
taal
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I'm thrilled ! Anything that will keep the theatre open - I'd love to see this project canceled outright ...
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Northern Light
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Only 19 years ago, the dapper professional we all know today as PE was dancing the night away into the wee hours.
Sorry PE, just trying to make you feel old, like the rest of us. LOL
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3Dementia
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PE still ain't that old...
I read a story in local media about that New Years blast at Republik where N was busted not only for underage drinking... but driving too... shocking.
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Northern Light
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Took Jack about 5 hours to lift the info from my post. No credit, as usual, LOL