I have no problem with extending excellent fast GO service to the 905 suburbs - so long as they cease and desist creating sprawl, and with some form of toll applied to QEW Gardiner and 401 to nudge people towards transit in preference to driving.
You realize most drivers must use the collector lanes at some point to get off 401 to go north on the 427, 400, Allen Expressway, an exit they need to get off at as well to bypass the mess in the express lanes. You have 30% of drivers that cannot use transit as they are medical personnel on call, transit personnel, construction workers carrying their tools to a job site, must be at work when transit not running to start with.Even a modest toll of 5 or 10 cents per km would be a start. The minimum toll off-peak can be quite low (even zero), but having a time of use toll for peak would be progress. It would be a good incentive to carpool, make express buses more viable, etc.
There really is no point in implementing a toll cause most drivers already pay a toll in the form of the "gas tax".Even a modest toll of 5 or 10 cents per km would be a start. The minimum toll off-peak can be quite low (even zero), but having a time of use toll for peak would be progress. It would be a good incentive to carpool, make express buses more viable, etc.
Now that is never going to happen. Where would you put it? Shut down the Food Terminal?There needs to be a parking structure at Park Lawn Station to suck the traffic off the Gardiner to help to reduce the congestion on it with service every 5 minutes to Union.
Ah this sounds similar to the delusion that the province had when they built the Sheppard subway to Don Mills. They had the "common sense" idea that commuters would get off at the 404, park at Fairview, and then use the subway the rest of the way to get downtown.There needs to be a parking structure at Park Lawn Station to suck the traffic off the Gardiner to help to reduce the congestion on it with service every 5 minutes to Union.
I'm not familiar with that area of town but this is the model at Kipling.Ah this sounds similar to the delusion that the province had when they built the Sheppard subway to Don Mills. They had the "common sense" idea that commuters would get off at the 404, park at Fairview, and then use the subway the rest of the way to get downtown.
Look at how well that worked out...
Kipling has a different kind of modal share split. There's a lot of people from within Etobicoke (north and south) who will drive up/down to Kipling and catch a train, but what you dont see much of is people going out of their way to get off at the 427 at Dundas to take the GO or subway. Usually people will use Kipling if it's already on their way to their destination and it's more convenient (ie: they drive because it's in the same direction of their trip to the station, it's more convenient than taking the bus to the station, and taking the train is more convenient than taking their car all the way downtown because there's no immediate adjacent highway next to it).I'm not familiar with that area of town but this is the model at Kipling.
People come from the West or North to park at Kipling station for free and take the subway downtown
Why would commuters get off at Fairview unless there is some catastrophic accident on the DVP? It adds (estimate) at least 10min just to sit in the queue to Sheppard.Ah this sounds similar to the delusion that the province had when they built the Sheppard subway to Don Mills. They had the "common sense" idea that commuters would get off at the 404, park at Fairview, and then use the subway the rest of the way to get downtown.
Look at how well that worked out...
Ask Mike Harris and his common sense revolution folk, they're the only people who apparently knew better through whatever information cool-aid they were drinking.Why would commuters get off at Fairview unless there is some catastrophic accident on the DVP? It adds (estimate) at least 10min just to sit in the queue to Sheppard.
I did that all the time, often parking on the top level as it was the only place with empty spots.Ah this sounds similar to the delusion that the province had when they built the Sheppard subway to Don Mills. They had the "common sense" idea that commuters would get off at the 404, park at Fairview, and then use the subway the rest of the way to get downtown.
Look at how well that worked out...
How is soaking up a couple hundred cars from Gardiner going to solve the rush hour congestion? Or are you suggesting building a 50-storey megaparking supergarage? Unless you offload thousands of cars from Gardiner, you're not going to notice any change in congestion.There needs to be a parking structure at Park Lawn Station to suck the traffic off the Gardiner to help to reduce the congestion on it with service every 5 minutes to Union.
The place to get people out of their cars is at Lisgar, Port Credit, Cooksville, Oakville, Etobicoke North, Bramalea, Malton. A parking garage at Park Lawn does nothing for congestion on the QEW, Gardiner, 427, 401.There needs to be a parking structure at Park Lawn Station to suck the traffic off the Gardiner to help to reduce the congestion on it with service every 5 minutes to Union.