Towered
Superstar
Is that transit corridor meant to encourage densification in the blue areas?
Toronto Ontario Line 3 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx
- Thread starter JasonParis
- Start date
Is that transit corridor meant to encourage densification in the blue areas?
tsm1072
Active Member
I haven't looked at in detail, but ramping off of Atlantic on the North side of the station so reduce the number of stairs required and help relieve congestion on the bridge as well.
rbt
Senior Member
No. It's to prevent people from changing their building envolope (no new pools, structures, decks, etc.) between when Metrolinx surveys the area and when their construction crews arrive to build stuff up to 10 years later. In addition to the usual city approval, you also require Metrolinx approval for any work permit and even some things that would not normally need a permit.
Last edited:
11th
Senior Member
The Exhibition station building looks way bigger than just a bridge. If they are smart, they'd make that the concourse with shops, sort of like what they do at some Asian stations; maybe add a roof top park while at it.Latest Metrolinx blog post on the Ontario Line. Includes station footprint maps for Exhibition, King/Bathurst, and Queen/Spadina.
View attachment 326719
View attachment 326718
View attachment 326728
MrGoose
Active Member
Narrator: They were not smart
officedweller
Senior Member
No, it's just impacted areas during construction - so basically it's where there will be road closures and work areas
(so they don't want people doing work/wanting access over those areas).
That's why the radii don't meet in people's backyards - it's focussed on the roads.
superelevation
Active Member
Steve Munro
New Member
Metrolinx has sent many conflicting signals about property that will be affected as opposed to "taken". They are evasive about land they might occupy (having to tear down the current trees, etc) in order to build on their corridor. When they show finished versions of the line these do not reveal what will occur for construction. There was a recent event at Small's Creek (east of the OL territory) where a crew came in at midnight to cut down trees in an area they had previously said would be protected. They wanted it for an access road to the corridor. It turned out that this was for a separate contract (new signalling cable) that the project team assuring the residents all was safe didn't know about. It is fairly common to discover that spokespeople for Metrolinx do not know all of what the organization is up to. They might have the best of intentions, but it is precisely this type of event that makes any "promise" or "plan" Metrolinx might produce utterly untrustworthy.
On the subject of electric service, when the total number of trains is planned to go up by a factor of 9x and the combined headway will be <60 seconds all day between GO and OL operations, people have every reason to distrust Mlx who have still not published any noise projections for the area in question. "Trust us, it will be quieter" rings hollow.
The compound effect of the evasions, the lack of detailed plans, and what I will generously call "staff who don't know what they are talking about" undermines Metrolinx' credibility on any issue.
generalcanada
Senior Member
so dumb question here but why couldnt they use the millwood bridge and viaduct like they did with the bloor street/prince edward viaduct?
Does it not support trains running below it?
Does it not support trains running below it?
ARG1
Senior Member
Pretty much. The Prince Edward Viaduct was specifically built to support a subway under it, 50 years before BD was built (the concept of foresight existed back then). The leaside bridge was not.
smallspy
Senior Member
The Millwood Bridge was built with a plan to build streetcar tracks down the middle of it, in the middle of the road.
It was also built as a 4 lane bridge, and was widened later in its life. There seems to be some confusion/dissension as to whether it is still capable of handling streetcars today.
But to put anything underneath the road deck? That's not possible without some very, very major rebuilding, and the piers may not be strong enough to handle the additional weight in any case.
Dan
generalcanada
Senior Member
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Even with an untrained eye, the Prince Edward Viaduct even LOOKS robust when the Leaside Bridge, formerly the East York Leaside Viaduct, and officially commemorated as the Confederation Bridge LOOKS fragile in comparison. Looks like they wanted to save money, but will now cost us in having to build a separate bridge.
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
Perhaps the Lansdowne bus should terminate at Exhibition as well.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Via Jameson Avenue? To King Street West and Atlantic Avenue?