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[ericmacm]

Great but what made mls at least somewhat respectable is Beckham, Henry, Messi. Maybe attendance is so low because people like to be able to recognize the players a little better than high school athletes

I’d much rather Mississauga focus on being the home to mlse minor league teams. Including the bisons.

CPL is the best we’ve got for pro soccer right now. It may seem “amateur” based on attendance levels but even the MLS started off like this. The MLS is never expanding to Canada again (Don Garber has said this explicitly), and one of the Canadian teams (CF Montreal) is rumoured to be in trouble and looking to move to Detroit. The CPL also doesn’t need to be the MLS - it can be smaller and still survive like many other tier 1 leagues in other countries. Being smaller also means less barrier to entry.

 

[Mihairokov]

A lot of the capacities of CFL stadiums are legacies from when those teams would draw more than they do today. The Argos are lucky to draw over half of BMO's capacity, the Stampeders will be playing in a smaller stadium in whatever replaces McMahon.

For Mississauga and other growing cities, it should be advised to start small and build their way up. There's no sense starting out at 20K capacities when there are hardly any franchises that garner that sort of crowd. Start small, gauge demand, and build from there.

It's unwise to glimpse at population numbers and assume all cities are built equally. Just because a city has X pop. doesn't mean they're all sports fans, and certainly doesn't mean they're all similar kinds of sports fans. How many hockey teams have failed in suburban Toronto in the past twenty years?

MLS has provided the blueprint for what Mississauga is looking for. DC, St Louis, Nashville among others have built urban stadiums in the past decade with varying degrees of success. Sauga should be looking to them for smaller-scale solutions. I think Louisville City's stadium may actually be what the goal should be in the medium-term.

 

[Mihairokov]

The MLS is never expanding to Canada again (Don Garber has said this explicitly), and one of the Canadian teams (CF Montreal) is rumoured to be in trouble and looking to move to Detroit.

This rumour was circulated by a hockey reporter with no sourcing. MLS gains nothing by moving Montreal to Detroit.

 

[JMSRead]

The CPL is small, but it's only been around a few years, and soccer in general in Canada is on a huge upward trajectory. The men's national team is in a different universe than it was 10 years ago in terms of talent. I think it's a great moment to build some soccer infrastructure, as I think the league has a good chance to grow in popularity along with the growth of soccer in Canada generally.

 

[Mihairokov]

I think it's a great moment to build some soccer infrastructure, as I think the league has a good chance to grow in popularity along with the growth of soccer in Canada generally.

It's worth pointing out that IIRC we will be building no permanent legacy facilities for hosting the World Cup in 2026. CPL is going to be the vehicle by which we gain more soccer infrastructure in this country in the near-term.

 

[sixrings]

A lot of the capacities of CFL stadiums are legacies from when those teams would draw more than they do today. The Argos are lucky to draw over half of BMO's capacity, the Stampeders will be playing in a smaller stadium in whatever replaces McMahon.

For Mississauga and other growing cities, it should be advised to start small and build their way up. There's no sense starting out at 20K capacities when there are hardly any franchises that garner that sort of crowd. Start small, gauge demand, and build from there.

It's unwise to glimpse at population numbers and assume all cities are built equally. Just because a city has X pop. doesn't mean they're all sports fans, and certainly doesn't mean they're all similar kinds of sports fans. How many hockey teams have failed in suburban Toronto in the past twenty years?

MLS has provided the blueprint for what Mississauga is looking for. DC, St Louis, Nashville among others have built urban stadiums in the past decade with varying degrees of success. Sauga should be looking to them for smaller-scale solutions. I think Louisville City's stadium may actually be what the goal should be in the medium-term.

Well I don’t know where I was proposing something monstrous. We should be building something. My preference for a hockey/basketball stadium is based on the possibilities of concerts and other things an indoor venue could host. A indoor venue can also be used year round. It also takes a smaller footprint.

I’d really like something like maple leafs gardens here where we have retail on the base. Hockey on the next floor. And basketball up top. But that’s just me.

 

[Mihairokov]

Well I don’t know where I was proposing something monstrous. We should be building something. My preference for a hockey/basketball stadium is based on the possibilities of concerts and other things an indoor venue could host. It also takes a smaller footprint.

I wasn't responding to you directly. Mississauga already has an indoor facility for hockey/basketball, and if they want to build another in their downtown they should take a cue from what will soon be happening at Scarborough Town Centre.

Hamilton's renovation of Copps is aiming to be the main competitor/second-choice of acts for Air Canada Centre. We will see how that pans out in the coming years for them.

 

[christiesplits]

The CPL is small, but it's only been around a few years, and soccer in general in Canada is on a huge upward trajectory. The men's national team is in a different universe than it was 10 years ago in terms of talent. I think it's a great moment to build some soccer infrastructure, as I think the league has a good chance to grow in popularity along with the growth of soccer in Canada generally.

A challenge facing the new Mississauga CPL team will be to try and nurture a fanbase in the suburbs. York United has experienced poor attendance since their inaugural season, due in large part, I'd argue, to the lack of civic identity in York Region.

 

[sixrings]

I wasn't responding to you directly. Mississauga already has an indoor facility for hockey/basketball, and if they want to build another in their downtown they should take a cue from what will soon be happening at Scarborough Town Centre.

Hamilton's renovation of Copps is aiming to be the main competitor/second-choice of acts for Air Canada Centre. We will see how that pans out in the coming years for them.

The facility Mississauga has is tired old and not in an urban location. The whole point of this project is not just to build a sporting field but to inject some energy into MCC.

“The downtown is boring. We have nothing exciting going on here until the festivals start (in spring and summer),” Parrish said from her office inside the Mississauga Civic Centre. “The City Centre has languished for a very long time; nothing’s happened here.”

I don’t actually fully agree with the mayor here but I’m excited to here someone trying to do something.

As for the Scarborough project. (I’m a former Scarborough resident) I love it. Just wish it was a bit bigger to host 905/marlies/wnba.

 

[sixrings]

I wasn't responding to you directly. Mississauga already has an indoor facility for hockey/basketball, and if they want to build another in their downtown they should take a cue from what will soon be happening at Scarborough Town Centre.

Hamilton's renovation of Copps is aiming to be the main competitor/second-choice of acts for Air Canada Centre. We will see how that pans out in the coming years for them.

I’d argue that the problem again is Torontonians are a bit elitest and they only want the best. It’s why the cfl struggles here. People think to themselves why would they go watch this when they could just watch the bills. The marlies and 905 also have that same problem but they can market that they’re fostering the next generation of athletes for these teams.

 

[Dan416]

I’m ok with them building something small to start. Build it so that it can expanded in the future. Look at BMO field. It had additional stands built as TFC became more popular. I think soccer would be a good sport to focus on. Mississauga already tried with OHL teams.

 

[sixrings]

I’m ok with them building something small to start. Build it so that it can expanded in the future. Look at BMO field. It had additional stands built as TFC became more popular. I think soccer would be a good sport to focus on. Mississauga already tried with OHL teams.

I’m fine with starting smaller but BMO started with 25k seating capacity.

varsity stadium capacity is 5000. I’d hope to meet more in the middle at 10000.

The most important thing is that this becomes something that is a MCC hub versus what we built at paramount fine foods centre in 1998.

 

[Dan416]

Mississauga isn’t Toronto and MCC isn’t easily accessible as Exhibition. I’m hesitant to waste money on something unproven. I’m sure it can be designed in a way to meet as much demand as a Mississauga stadium would ever need.

 

[SubHuman]

A lot of the capacities of CFL stadiums are legacies from when those teams would draw more than they do today. The Argos are lucky to draw over half of BMO's capacity, the Stampeders will be playing in a smaller stadium in whatever replaces McMahon...

Also, the future of the CFL appears to be in question with the TV contract set to expire in two years. The TSN money has been what's kept the CFL going for about the last 15 or 20 years, when apparently no one else (including Rogers, who will now reluctantly inherit the Argos through MLSE) has had any interest in bidding. With Bell selling their part of MLSE (and other moves like dropping their sponsorship of TIFF), it would seem unlikely that the CFL would be able to find another source to replace the alleged $50 million a year from the present TV deal.

 

[sixrings]

Mississauga isn’t Toronto and MCC isn’t easily accessible as Exhibition. I’m hesitant to waste money on something unproven. I’m sure it can be designed in a way to meet as much demand as a Mississauga stadium would ever need.

No one is comparing Mississauga to Toronto. I just don’t understand why we’re looking at a city of 75k and emulating what they have done.

Let’s just build a 1000 then and call it a day.