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Re: Residences of Maple Leaf Square - Update/Retail
Any start date been rumoured?
Any start date been rumoured?
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Mike in TO
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The developers want to proceed as soon as planning approvals and permits are in place.
Getting trades could be another delay. Several projects have been very slow simply because the supply of skilled trades is not enough to meet the demand of so many projects in and around Toronto. Lanterra had to delay the start of the Murano for these reasons, Maple Leaf Square may run into the same problems.
The developers want to proceed as soon as planning approvals and permits are in place.
Getting trades could be another delay. Several projects have been very slow simply because the supply of skilled trades is not enough to meet the demand of so many projects in and around Toronto. Lanterra had to delay the start of the Murano for these reasons, Maple Leaf Square may run into the same problems.
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AlvinofDiaspar
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And they are approved by the TO East York Community Council, along with the new blocks at Cityplace - from the Star:
Condos riding high
With the railway lands density fight won long ago, developers push ahead with big projects with nary a peep from the city
Jul. 12, 2006. 05:48 AM
DONOVAN VINCENT
CITY HALL BUREAU
If anyone has a concern about the height of several new condos planned for Toronto's railway lands — including 50- and 54-storey towers slated for the Air Canada Centre — it's too late, that issue has already been settled.
The best city councillors can do now is try to ensure things like pedestrian walkways, parks, schools and community centres are included in the projects.
That's just what happened yesterday at Toronto and East York community council where two major condo developments were approved, including the $400 million-plus Maple Leaf Square proposal, which calls for two condo towers at the ACC.
The nearly 900-unit project is a joint initiative involving Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, Cadillac Fairview and Lanterra Developments and includes a large podium with a sports-themed restaurant, broadcast studio and theatre.
With construction scheduled to begin in October and be completed around December 2009, the project is slated for York St. north of the Gardiner, just metres south of the 30-storey Telus building, a $250 million project planned by Menkes Developments.
In addition to the two condo towers, another development calling for six condo buildings — three 18-storey buildings, two 36-storey structures, and one 38 storeys, all atop podiums — to be built on property west of Spadina Ave. at Front St. W. also got the green light at community council yesterday.
Both proposals will be up for final approval when city council meets in two weeks.
Some might think that the enormous intensification called for by the two projects would have caused a stir at community council. The area is being transformed as condos spring up.
But there was nary a peep, save for one deputant who complained the view of the Fairmont Royal York hotel might be obscured by the York St. project.
The battle over densities in both areas was fought years ago at OMB hearings and city councils, during heated debates over how best to build on the east and west railway lands.
In the '70s and early '80s, the push from many elected leaders was more for "European-style'' mid-rises, than towers with large podiums.
These days it's obvious which style has won out in Toronto.
The heights and densities of the two proposals have already been given the go-ahead.
Now the fight is to ensure these large projects are a good fit with the downtown core, city councillors say.
"We're faced with that immovable object called the development agreement. But I do think that in this case the Maple Leaf Square development allows us to take a negative for the city (losing the fight at the OMB) and turn it into a positive,'' said Councillor Pam McConnell (Ward 28, Toronto Centre-Rosedale), whose ward takes in the York St. project.
The final staff report for that plan includes four pages of recommendations including calls for publicly accessible walkways in and around the site, landscaping and paving, and adequate parking spaces for cars, buses and bikes.
McConnell also put forward amendments of her own, calling for staff to study things like pedestrian traffic in the area, speed limits, sidewalk widths and crosswalks.
Her hope is that pedestrians won't be cut off from the waterfront by the project.
"We think we'll have a much better pedestrian realm, a real opportunity to go down York St. and connect to the waterfront and remove the barriers to that,'' McConnell said.
"In addition to that we'll have a beautiful public space that can be used by tourists and Torontonians.''
Regarding the Spadina Ave. project called City Place, Councillor Martin Silva (Ward 20, Trinity-Spadina) admitted that "there's a lot of development going on'' on the site, part of which used to include a nine-hole golf course and driving range. There already are condo towers on the east side of Spadina, part of the same Concord Adex project that's unfolding on the west side.
The new project, pegged at over $300 million, is to be located south of the railway corridor. It also calls for the extension of Fort York Blvd., east past Bathurst St. The TTC has considered putting in a streetcar line, but Silva says that could prove too costly and that buses will likely run along the new street.
Despite the planned intensification Silva is heartened by the fact the new project includes plans for a large park, schools, and a community centre.
"We managed to secure a park in the railway lands which I'm happy to see,'' he said, adding there are also plans for Toronto Community Housing units on the site, though that hasn't been approved yet.
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And they are approved by the TO East York Community Council, along with the new blocks at Cityplace - from the Star:
Condos riding high
With the railway lands density fight won long ago, developers push ahead with big projects with nary a peep from the city
Jul. 12, 2006. 05:48 AM
DONOVAN VINCENT
CITY HALL BUREAU
If anyone has a concern about the height of several new condos planned for Toronto's railway lands — including 50- and 54-storey towers slated for the Air Canada Centre — it's too late, that issue has already been settled.
The best city councillors can do now is try to ensure things like pedestrian walkways, parks, schools and community centres are included in the projects.
That's just what happened yesterday at Toronto and East York community council where two major condo developments were approved, including the $400 million-plus Maple Leaf Square proposal, which calls for two condo towers at the ACC.
The nearly 900-unit project is a joint initiative involving Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, Cadillac Fairview and Lanterra Developments and includes a large podium with a sports-themed restaurant, broadcast studio and theatre.
With construction scheduled to begin in October and be completed around December 2009, the project is slated for York St. north of the Gardiner, just metres south of the 30-storey Telus building, a $250 million project planned by Menkes Developments.
In addition to the two condo towers, another development calling for six condo buildings — three 18-storey buildings, two 36-storey structures, and one 38 storeys, all atop podiums — to be built on property west of Spadina Ave. at Front St. W. also got the green light at community council yesterday.
Both proposals will be up for final approval when city council meets in two weeks.
Some might think that the enormous intensification called for by the two projects would have caused a stir at community council. The area is being transformed as condos spring up.
But there was nary a peep, save for one deputant who complained the view of the Fairmont Royal York hotel might be obscured by the York St. project.
The battle over densities in both areas was fought years ago at OMB hearings and city councils, during heated debates over how best to build on the east and west railway lands.
In the '70s and early '80s, the push from many elected leaders was more for "European-style'' mid-rises, than towers with large podiums.
These days it's obvious which style has won out in Toronto.
The heights and densities of the two proposals have already been given the go-ahead.
Now the fight is to ensure these large projects are a good fit with the downtown core, city councillors say.
"We're faced with that immovable object called the development agreement. But I do think that in this case the Maple Leaf Square development allows us to take a negative for the city (losing the fight at the OMB) and turn it into a positive,'' said Councillor Pam McConnell (Ward 28, Toronto Centre-Rosedale), whose ward takes in the York St. project.
The final staff report for that plan includes four pages of recommendations including calls for publicly accessible walkways in and around the site, landscaping and paving, and adequate parking spaces for cars, buses and bikes.
McConnell also put forward amendments of her own, calling for staff to study things like pedestrian traffic in the area, speed limits, sidewalk widths and crosswalks.
Her hope is that pedestrians won't be cut off from the waterfront by the project.
"We think we'll have a much better pedestrian realm, a real opportunity to go down York St. and connect to the waterfront and remove the barriers to that,'' McConnell said.
"In addition to that we'll have a beautiful public space that can be used by tourists and Torontonians.''
Regarding the Spadina Ave. project called City Place, Councillor Martin Silva (Ward 20, Trinity-Spadina) admitted that "there's a lot of development going on'' on the site, part of which used to include a nine-hole golf course and driving range. There already are condo towers on the east side of Spadina, part of the same Concord Adex project that's unfolding on the west side.
The new project, pegged at over $300 million, is to be located south of the railway corridor. It also calls for the extension of Fort York Blvd., east past Bathurst St. The TTC has considered putting in a streetcar line, but Silva says that could prove too costly and that buses will likely run along the new street.
Despite the planned intensification Silva is heartened by the fact the new project includes plans for a large park, schools, and a community centre.
"We managed to secure a park in the railway lands which I'm happy to see,'' he said, adding there are also plans for Toronto Community Housing units on the site, though that hasn't been approved yet.
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DaninToronto2
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You would think they would be happy to to take brown fields with no pedestrian activity and change it into an area with both residential and commercial as well as retail use in an effort to transform a lifeless area. That to me should be what the article is about, but instead it complains that we didn't copy other cities planning.
Also, I think the gardiner and railway tracks do enough to cut off the waterfront, I dont see this possibly making it any worse.
You would think they would be happy to to take brown fields with no pedestrian activity and change it into an area with both residential and commercial as well as retail use in an effort to transform a lifeless area. That to me should be what the article is about, but instead it complains that we didn't copy other cities planning.
Also, I think the gardiner and railway tracks do enough to cut off the waterfront, I dont see this possibly making it any worse.
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indense
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thank god our councillors fight for important design issues like making sure that condos built 50 yards from our main public transportation hub have "adequate parking"
thank god our councillors fight for important design issues like making sure that condos built 50 yards from our main public transportation hub have "adequate parking"
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blixa442
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Nombec
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"Her hope is that pedestrians won't be cut off from the waterfront by the project."
Thats a good hope because, a sprawling freeway and 6 lines of railway tracks haven't cut pedestrians off.
"Her hope is that pedestrians won't be cut off from the waterfront by the project."
Thats a good hope because, a sprawling freeway and 6 lines of railway tracks haven't cut pedestrians off.
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scarberiankhatru
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"Thats a good hope because, a sprawling freeway and 6 lines of railway tracks haven't cut pedestrians off."
No, they haven't...Lakeshore did, though.
"Thats a good hope because, a sprawling freeway and 6 lines of railway tracks haven't cut pedestrians off."
No, they haven't...Lakeshore did, though.
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interchange42
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Is the Gardiner not high enough for a couple of pedestrian bridges to be fit underneath it and over Lake Shore to developments on the south side? We could have our own limited Calgary-like Plus 15 system going, since there's already to be a connection from the ACC to MLS over BB.
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Is the Gardiner not high enough for a couple of pedestrian bridges to be fit underneath it and over Lake Shore to developments on the south side? We could have our own limited Calgary-like Plus 15 system going, since there's already to be a connection from the ACC to MLS over BB.
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Here is a render from The Condo Guide that I do not think has been posted before:
Here is a render from The Condo Guide that I do not think has been posted before:
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Sir Novelty Fashion
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That rendering makes me really curious about how that massive podium's going to turn out. Could it possibly be so luminescent? Cause if it isn't, it's going to be one hell of a slab.
That rendering makes me really curious about how that massive podium's going to turn out. Could it possibly be so luminescent? Cause if it isn't, it's going to be one hell of a slab.
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AlvinofDiaspar
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SNF:
I don't doubt it will turn out fairly well at night; the effect during daytime is not as certain, especially if the glass used is heavily tinted.
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SNF:
I don't doubt it will turn out fairly well at night; the effect during daytime is not as certain, especially if the glass used is heavily tinted.
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adma
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I dunno, buildings of that general shape + disposition still make me think of the Towering Inferno
I dunno, buildings of that general shape + disposition still make me think of the Towering Inferno
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WhistlerinToronto
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Construction set to begin Sept 19th, can anybody confirm this?
A: Turns out it's the ground breaking ceremony. Still great news though.
Construction set to begin Sept 19th, can anybody confirm this?
A: Turns out it's the ground breaking ceremony. Still great news though.
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Sir Novelty Fashion
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Really now? A bumper crop of big giant holes this season!
Really now? A bumper crop of big giant holes this season!